General NHL Talk 2021-2022

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Andy Strickland@andystrickland

Told Gabriel Landeskog could be asking for a salary that pays in the range of $9-$10M in the open market. He’s willing to give Colorado a hometown discount but the Avs will need to up from their last offer which came in in the $5-$6 range on a 8 yr term.

 

 

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14 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

 

 

I've always assumed he'd get 8 yrs just north of 7

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1 hour ago, arch stanton said:

I've always assumed he'd get 8 yrs just north of 7

That's about right.  That they are trying for 5-6 is way too low though.

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15 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

That's about right.  That they are trying for 5-6 is way too low though.

That's just what the report says. He's at 5.7 already. I don't believe that number other than maybe to reference what Edmonton gave RNH, who was the player taken just before him in. their draft year

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Red Wings Acquire Nick Leddy

NYI making moves to not lose someone.  Probably more than what the Ducks should expect from Manson but BM will want more.  

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Yikes.

Weber situation could lead to dispute between NHL, PA

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Weber is one of the last active players in the league playing on a deal that would include a cap recapture penalty from the front-loaded 14-year, $110 million contract he signed with the Nashville Predators in 2012. He is due just $12 million in actual salary over the next five seasons.

If Weber were to retire, as opposed to landing on long-term injured reserve, the Predators would face a cap charge in each of the next five seasons, starting with a $4.9 million charge in the upcoming season and building to a charge of $24.57 million in 2025-26, the final year of Weber's deal.

 

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Dang.  Lot's of late movement.

Ryan Ellis, Phillippe Myers, Nolan Patrick, Cody Glass Swapped In Three-Team Trade

Toronto Maple Leafs Acquire Jared McCann

Vancouver Canucks Trade For Jason Dickinson

San Jose Sharks Acquire Adin Hill

[Vegas Halo Fan]

Knights have made a couple of minor deals. On the surface of it they appear to be trying to get younger. Acquired C Nick Howden from NYR and Nolan Patrick from Philadelphia. Neither cost them much. The most notable player going out was Cody Glass to Philly. Glass was a salary cap casualty, spent most of last season at AHL Henderson.

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I've heard that Montreal got Price to waive his NMC so they could protect Jake Allen. Good idea?

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22 minutes ago, arch stanton said:

I've heard that Montreal got Price to waive his NMC so they could protect Jake Allen. Good idea?

That's a tough one.  Price is still only 33, and just lead the Habs to the Cup finals.  But 5/$10.5 million per is a lot.  That would be 1/8 of their total cap.

Then you have how well Fleury has lead right off the bat for Vegas.  Having a high end goalie right off the bat, could be really tempting for the Kraken.  

 

Oh, and just realized.  Price is from an indian tribe.  North of Vancouver and Seattle.  

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Yeah I don't think Price would be too upset if he gets taken. Montreal has to be wearing thin by now

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Protected list.  Ducks GM is an idiot.

https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-announces-protected-list-for-2021-nhl-seattle-expansion-draft/c-325681840

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10 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

Protected list.  Ducks GM is an idiot.

https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-announces-protected-list-for-2021-nhl-seattle-expansion-draft/c-325681840

 Lol, that was a close one. I was wondering what we were going to do if we lost Deslauriers.

Is there any question going forward that BM is an incompetent fool?

Silfverberg, Manson - Really ???

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10 hours ago, arch stanton said:

Yeah I don't think Price would be too upset if he gets taken. Montreal has to be wearing thin by now

Yup.  Price is on the available list.  

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3 minutes ago, deepdrive said:

 Lol, that was a close one. I was wondering what we were going to do if we lost Deslauriers.

Is there any question going forward that BM is an incompetent fool?

The only thing I can think of is he has a deal for them to take Henrique.  Either our first round pick, or our first round pick and Fleury.

Makes you wonder though.  With Price available, a cheap backup like Stolarz would offset the Price Salary and be a legit backup.

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4 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

The only thing I can think of is he has a deal for them to take Henrique.  Either our first round pick, or our first round pick and Fleury.

Makes you wonder though.  With Price available, a cheap backup like Stolarz would offset the Price Salary and be a legit backup.

They have to take 3 goalies. I think the choice from the Ducks comes down to Stolarz or Fleury unless there's a deal. 

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Ok, I've had a minute to cool my jets and look at this. This is what I see:

Bob played his 'I'm a hockey guy' card  and asked the Krackers who they wanted. He was ok with who they said. So, he exposed that player. The list he filled with players who he thought would have their feelings hurt if they weren't on it.

That's the best I got.

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I'm a little surprised the Avalanche exposed Landeskog to protect O'Connor. They must be pretty confident they have a deal in place that Seattle won't top

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2 minutes ago, arch stanton said:

I'm a little surprised the Avalanche exposed Landeskog to protect O'Connor. They must be pretty confident they have a deal in place that Seattle won't top

Or that Seattle will do a sign and trade.  They do allow that in the NHL right?  

Seattle signs him for 8 and whatever a team wants.  Then trades to say St. Louis who is interested in him.

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Or, they don't value him going forward like they have in the past. They obviously don't want to tie up the money he's asking for in him.

If they sign him and that takes up Colorado's selection, I'm assuming that negates any free agent compensation. Correct? That makes it a little hard to understand.

 

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I don't think they believe anyone will pay him Mark Stone money and letting him hit FA should prove that

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29 minutes ago, arch stanton said:

They have to take 3 goalies. I think the choice from the Ducks comes down to Stolarz or Fleury unless there's a deal. 

Looking at the mock drafts, not much offense available.  Palat seems like the best available.  Henrique would be a second above everyone else.  With the additional benefit of signed further than a year.  So who knows.  Maybe as DD said, the Ducks asked who they wanted, and the Kraken said Henrique and they said fine.

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I think when Francis figured out he wasn't going to get the deals Vegas got, he made some handshake deals. I think some picks are fixed (or at least semi fixed) at this point.

Not privy to any inside info, all we can do is guess. But it sure looks like that.

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So what does everyone think of Montreal?  

With news that Webber might be done.  Now with Price dangled.  They could go from $14 million in cap space to $32 million in cap space.  They are shaping up to be huge players in FA'cy.  

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8 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

So what does everyone think of Montreal?  

With news that Webber might be done.  Now with Price dangled.  They could go from $14 million in cap space to $32 million in cap space.  They are shaping up to be huge players in FA'cy.  

I don't think they will sit on it. So yeah, if it works out that way.