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Just now, Angelsjunky said:

...the Angels didn't extend Bundy. What a bust - I guess 2020 was not the breakthrough we hoped for. 6.02 ERA through 8 starts.  I know, I know: a 4.05 FIP, but...

Who are they going to replace him with ? They probably need to bring him back.  At least now they won’t have to pay him like he’s an all star. 

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32 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

...the Angels didn't extend Bundy. What a bust - I guess 2020 was not the breakthrough we hoped for. 6.02 ERA through 8 starts.  I know, I know: a 4.05 FIP, but...

His trade value goes down every start.

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30 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

I thought this was a .500 team at it's worst.  They just suck right now 

Yeah, me too. I thought the wide range was 80-95, with 87 the median and my optimistic prediction being 91. 

20 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

I still think they’ll end up being about a .500 team. 

Yeah, but that's the problem. They suck and then scramble back to mediocrity and we're left with a decent but not great draft pick and the perennial delusion that we're just a few savvy moves away.

So far Minasian's tenure has been an extension of Eppler's. Similar moves yielding similar results.

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1 minute ago, Angelsjunky said:

Yeah, me too. I thought the wide range was 80-95, with 87 the median and my optimistic prediction being 91. 

Yeah, but that's the problem. They suck and then scramble back to mediocrity and we're left with a decent but not great draft pick and the perennial delusion that we're just a few savvy moves away.

So far Minasian's tenure has been an extension of Eppler's. Similar moves yielding similar results.

The more things change the more they remain the same, that's the halo way

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11 minutes ago, failos said:

We’ll get a top 3 draft pick at this rate.

 

4 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

Yeah, me too. I thought the wide range was 80-95, with 87 the median and my optimistic prediction being 91. 

Yeah, but that's the problem. They suck and then scramble back to mediocrity and we're left with a decent but not great draft pick and the perennial delusion that we're just a few savvy moves away.

So far Minasian's tenure has been an extension of Eppler's. Similar moves yielding similar results.

Don’t get me wrong.  If they’re not going to be good, I’d prefer that they just be very bad.  We won’t be that lucky.  

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1 hour ago, failos said:

Nah. There are shittier teams out there.

Maybe, but they have exciting young kids to keep their fans entertained and give them hope for the future. What do we have ahead of us? The downslope of Trout & Rendon's careers and...not much else. Even Adell & Marsh, who were supposed to be "can't miss" prospects, are...missing.

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ProjectionsMinor LeaguesRegular MLB Seasons
Season Team Level Events EV maxEV LA Barrels Barrel% HardHit HardHit% ERA xERA
2016 BAL MLB 322 87.5 108.2 17.1 17 5.3% 100 31.1% 4.02 4.34
2017 BAL MLB 488 88.8 115.2 19.4 34 7.0% 178 36.5% 4.24 4.39
2018 BAL MLB 506 89.3 116.8 17.4 41 8.1% 189 37.4% 5.45 4.51
2019 BAL MLB 474 88.2 113.4 14.0 25 5.3% 151 31.9% 4.79 4.29
2020 LAA MLB 174 87.0 106.9 14.5 8 4.6% 57 32.8% 3.29 3.06
2021 LAA MLB 126 87.2 111.1 13.8 12 9.5% 38 30.2% 6.02 3.53
Total - - - MLB 2090 88.3 116.8 16.6 137 6.6% 713 34.1% 4.63
ProjectionsMinor LeaguesRegular MLB SeasonsAverages
Season Team Level K/9 BB/9 K/BB HR/9 K% BB% K-BB% AVG WHIP BABIP LOB% ERA- FIP- FIP
2012 BAL MLB 0.00 5.40 0.00 0.00 0.0% 16.7% -16.7% .200 1.20 .200 100.0% 0 114 4.89
2016 BAL MLB 8.53 3.45 2.48 1.48 21.9% 8.9% 13.1% .256 1.38 .299 79.7% 95 107 4.70
2017 BAL MLB 8.06 2.71 2.98 1.38 21.8% 7.3% 14.5% .238 1.20 .273 73.7% 95 96 4.38
2018 BAL MLB 9.65 2.83 3.41 2.15 24.5% 7.2% 17.3% .272 1.41 .316 69.3% 128 117 5.17
2019 BAL MLB 9.02 3.23 2.79 1.61 23.1% 8.3% 14.9% .253 1.35 .297 70.5% 104 99 4.73
2020 LAA MLB 9.87 2.33 4.24 0.69 27.0% 6.4% 20.6% .207 1.04 .272 69.2% 75 65 2.95
2021 LAA MLB 9.55 2.49 3.83 1.45 24.7% 6.5% 18.3% .250 1.27 .303 57.2% 148 99 4.07
                                 
Total - - - MLB 8.96 2.92 3.06 1.57 23.4% 7.6% 15.7% .250 1.30 .294 71.6% 106 101 4.55

Career OPS over .900 in Fenway...

 

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Bundy turned back into Bundy.  I am not really shocked.  His breakout seemed like Cinderella and midnight was always coming.

Optimistically it looks like he is perfectly capable of logging some really good starts. But objectively I am not expecting great overall results.

And this is more or less true about just about the entire starting pitching staff.

When you realistically should not expect great overall results, you are going to end up without great overall results over a long 162 games.

This isn’t brain surgery.

The frustration is this analysis is nothing new.  Did we really have to burn another season to know this?

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As I was saying.

6.50 ERA now. 6.50! 

Bundy essentializes the Angels this year. The question before the start of the year was whether he could sustain his 2020 performance and establish himself as a true #2, or if he would drop back to his #4 status of previous years. He's actually become far worse than even that. Is he broken?

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