The Official 2021-2022 Anaheim Ducks Thread

[arch stanton]

If Laine and Eichel are out of your price range there's alway Sam Reinhart or Johnny Gaudreau. Your choice of Arizona forwards. Seth Jones? Whoever the Rangers are willing to offload in pursuit of Eichel?

[deepdrive]

On 5/13/2021 at 11:39 PM, arch stanton said:

If Laine and Eichel are out of your price range there's alway Sam Reinhart or Johnny Gaudreau. Your choice of Arizona forwards. Seth Jones? Whoever the Rangers are willing to offload in pursuit of Eichel?

I don't think it's the amount that would put someone out of their price range. Or, at least it shouldn't be. In a salary cap environment, shouldn't it be about value and having a plan? Then, balance your team the best you can.

I think this is where the Ducks have failed under Bob. The lack of an overall plan and the skills to carry it out. The fact that the Ducks have such a lack of scoring is a flag here.

I know that there is more to it than that. But what I've stated is a major flaw in Bob's team building techniques.

That being said, I think some of the players you bring up would be good additions at the right price and acquisition cost. Like I said, it's about value. Sadly, Bob seems to think value is getting someone cheap who may outplay his contract (But yet, they rarely do for him.)

[arch stanton]

I was referring to acquisition price more than money. Zegras and Drysdale will come up in every conversation and to me Eichel is the only one worth packaging Zegras

[gotbeer]

49 minutes ago, arch stanton said:

I was referring to acquisition price more than money. Zegras and Drysdale will come up in every conversation and to me Eichel is the only one worth packaging Zegras

No way would I trade Zegras or Drysdale if I were the Ducks.  Even for Eichel, or Laine, for that matter.  Once both gains 15-20 pounds, they are going to be a monsters.  

[arch stanton]

13 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

No way would I trade Zegras or Drysdale if I were the Ducks.  Even for Eichel, or Laine, for that matter.  Once both gains 15-20 pounds, they are going to be a monsters.  

Yeah but Eichel is already a proven stud under contract although my money is on him going to the Rangers as my old buddy Drury's signature move

[gotbeer]

42 minutes ago, arch stanton said:

Yeah but Eichel is already a proven stud under contract although my money is on him going to the Rangers as my old buddy Drury's signature move

Eichel also has that major back issue.  That's his big problem right now.  He could be Eichel, or he could be a boat anchor contract.

[gotbeer]

Anyone have the Athletic subscription?  They had a mailbag section, and I guess someone brought up Laine.  

[arch stanton]

1 hour ago, gotbeer said:

Anyone have the Athletic subscription?  They had a mailbag section, and I guess someone brought up Laine.  

The writer said pretty much what you’ve been saying.  Bring him in and let him score.  Ut he also mentioned that Reinhart could be cheaper and bring a better all around game. No mention of what pieces might go the other way

[deepdrive]

I think Eichel's situation is a neck injury.

A neck injury in hockey ( and is spinal in nature) that may need surgery? I wouldn't touch him.

[deepdrive]

10 hours ago, gotbeer said:

Anyone have the Athletic subscription?  They had a mailbag section, and I guess someone brought up Laine.  

Basic stuff. No real surprise answers to any of the questions.

Kind of an underlying theme that has come up in the last 3 Mailbox issues is the fan consensus (and Stephens, too) that BM needs to go - but, he won't be fired. Rather, he will be transitioned out at some point. Hopefully, after next season and Maddon will take over.

[gotbeer]

https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2021/05/nhl-sets-2021-draft-lottery-odds.html 

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Buffalo Sabres – 16.6%
Anaheim Ducks – 12.1%
Seattle Kraken – 10.3%
New Jersey Devils – 10.3%
Columbus Blue Jackets – 8.5%
Detroit Red Wings – 7.6%
San Jose Sharks – 6.7%
Los Angeles Kings – 5.8%
Vancouver Canucks – 5.4%
Ottawa Senators – 4.5%
Arizona Coyotes – 3.1%*
Chicago Blackhawks – 2.7%
Calgary Flames – 2.2%
Philadelphia Flyers – 1.8%
Dallas Stars – 1.4%
New York Rangers – 1.0%

So in other words, the Blackhawks and Red Wings are locks for 1 and 2.

[deepdrive]

On 5/19/2021 at 6:36 PM, gotbeer said:

https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2021/05/nhl-sets-2021-draft-lottery-odds.html 

So in other words, the Blackhawks and Red Wings are locks for 1 and 2.

Lol. The old man has to be the old man; the fish has to be the fish; the NHL has to be the NHL. You have to be who you are in this world.

[gotbeer]

Interesting signing.  Hopefully he can steer us to go young and jettison the old folks.

Ducks Name Jeff Solomon VP of Hockey Operations and Assistant GM

[deepdrive]

As long as Bob is the GM, I don't know how much of a say he'll have in who we trade for or sign. He'll probably just be the fall guy for bad contracts on guys Bob pushed for.

[gotbeer]

Owen Power, William Eklund top NHL Central Scouting's final 2021 draft rankings

[gotbeer]

Anaheim Ducks coach, GM will be back next season

[gotbeer]

Playing with the Tankathon draft simulator.  It appears that we are locks for the #4 pick according to the 20 times I did the sim.

http://www.tankathon.com/nhl

[gotbeer]

Draft day.  Trade for Laine.  

[gotbeer]

Oh boy.  We get top 3.  No change at all in the order this time for a longshot.

[gotbeer]

#3.  Of course the ducks are the only team that gets fucked.

[gotbeer]

Mock 2021 NHL Draft: Power to Sabres; Kraken take Beniers at No. 2

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3. Anaheim Ducks

Kimelman -- Dylan Guenther, RW, Edmonton (WHL): The Ducks were last in the NHL this season in scoring (2.21 goals per game) and on the power play (8.9 percent), so adding arguably the most dynamic offensive player available makes sense. Guenther (6-1, 175) averaged 2.00 points per game in the Western Hockey League (24 points in 12 games) and can use a hard, accurate shot to score from anywhere in the offensive zone.

Morreale -- Simon Edvinsson, D, Frolunda Jr. (SWE-JR): Edvinsson (6-4, 198) is a physical, left-shot defenseman with a good set of tools, including mobility, skating and a strong shot. He had one assist and averaged 5:48 of ice time in 10 games with Frolunda in the Swedish Hockey League and scored four points (one goal, three assists) in seven games for Sweden at the 2021 IIHF Under-18 World Championship.

Dylan Guenther – 2021 NHL Draft Prospect Profile

Dylan Guenther Scouting Report: 2021 NHL Draft #6
 

Sounds good.  But most of his goals were up front.  Didn't think he had an overpowering shot.  And while a lot of his goals were in traffic, didn't think it was a well played defense type of traffic.

[deepdrive]

He sounds like the type of player who will adjust well to the NHL.

[gotbeer]

12 hours ago, deepdrive said:

He sounds like the type of player who will adjust well to the NHL.

I'm still not sold on the top picks.  Oh, and I just looked at Columbus' draft.  They have not one.  But three first round picks.  Their own pick, Toronto's pick (which will be in the high teens), and the Lightnings pick (which will probably be in the high 20's).  With Seth Jones possibly being traded, I still say you offer the #3 pick, either Lindholm or Manson, and Steel for Laine and Toronto's pick.  I figure asking for the #5 is probably too much.  

I'm also changing tunes on re-signing Getzlaf.  We have Henrique, and as a #1 or #2 line, Rico is a lukewarm.  But as a #3 line, he'll be solid.  

1. Zegras, Comtois, Terry
2. Lundestrom, Rakell, Laine
3. Henrique, Jones, Volkov
4. Shaw/Getzlaf, Deslauriers, Heinen

Trade Silfverberg, Manson, Lindholm, Shaw, Deslauriers, Shattenkirk.

[deepdrive]

Getzlaf should retire. He's never been the type of guy to put out the effort to rise to the best he can be. Going forward, he will just mail it in. I'm tired of watching him kill our offense (especially power plays) by stopping the quick movement of the puck.

Bye. Too bad you were never the great player you could have been.

[deepdrive]

I lived in a resort town for a number of years. I saw a lot of people come there to 'change there lives'. Some were successful; some weren't. 

The one's that failed were usually because when they moved to change their lives, they took their selves (the real problem) along.

The Ducks aren't going to be able to trade their problems away, because their problem isn't the players they have. It's the organization. Just look at all the players in the playoffs doing well with other teams.

To fix a problem, you have to realize what the real problem is and be willing to address it. The Ducks aren't there.