大谷翔平 - The Official Shohei Ohtani Thread

[ten ocho recon scout]

Can someone whos good at that like @Lou bump some old threads from when we first signed him. For fun

[DCAngelsFan]

8 hours ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Can someone whos good at that like @Lou bump some old threads from when we first signed him. For fun

Surprised this hasn't been memory-holed ....

https://sports.yahoo.com/verdict-shohei-ohtanis-bat-not-good-023611674.html

[Angel Oracle]

24 minutes ago, DCAngelsFan said:

Surprised this hasn't been memory-holed ....

https://sports.yahoo.com/verdict-shohei-ohtanis-bat-not-good-023611674.html

LOL

Seems like he’s turning well on inside fastballs now.

[ten ocho recon scout]

36 minutes ago, DCAngelsFan said:

Surprised this hasn't been memory-holed ....

https://sports.yahoo.com/verdict-shohei-ohtanis-bat-not-good-023611674.html

"8 major league scouts, 7 who have seen Ohtani this spring.."

So our whole scouting department was there?

Memory lane thing here. It mentioned Ohtani getting backed off the plate with a slider. Remember how he used to bail out against those, in a big way, like every time? Forgot about that. Guess he made the adjustments....

[ten ocho recon scout]

23 hours ago, Angelsjunky said:

Nah. They will get a better bargain this offseason. He's shown what he can do, the only question is health over a long period of time. Lock him up.

Id still be cautious. Bit at the same time, not my money. Why take a chance? 

Question is. Do you do the Trout extension? Like a 6 year Standard type? Or the Tatis "F*ck it, next decade!" type of deal?

[WicketMaiden]

30 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Id still be cautious. Bit at the same time, not my money. Why take a chance? 

Question is. Do you do the Trout extension? Like a 6 year Standard type? Or the Tatis "F*ck it, next decade!" type of deal?

Another three months of producing like he has and you will have to give him whatever he wants. He's on track for 10+ WAR. He will get Cy Young and MVP votes, lots of them. And to be honest I think as a pitcher he is still developing and will only get better. Add to that he is incredibly marketable. Would the Yankees sign him to 10/$400m? Or 8/$320 after his current deal?

If your answer is yes, that's the benchmark.

[Taylor]

31 minutes ago, WicketMaiden said:

Another three months of producing like he has and you will have to give him whatever he wants. He's on track for 10+ WAR. He will get Cy Young and MVP votes, lots of them. And to be honest I think as a pitcher he is still developing and will only get better. Add to that he is incredibly marketable. Would the Yankees sign him to 10/$400m? Or 8/$320 after his current deal?

If your answer is yes, that's the benchmark.

In other words, Shohei the money!

[WicketMaiden]

1 hour ago, Taylor said:

In other words, Shohei the money!

In that thread I said I'd offer 8/240 at the All-Star break. That's starting to look like a cheap offer.

[Tank]

19 minutes ago, WicketMaiden said:

In that thread I said I'd offer 8/240 at the All-Star break. That's starting to look like a cheap offer.

that's a lot of quid.

[Blarg]

Unless the Angels can get their shit together and build a pitching staff around him, Ohtani is not going to stick with a sub .500 team no matter what the offer. 

[Tank]

winning cures a lot of problems.

[WicketMaiden]

21 minutes ago, Tank said:

that's a lot of quid.

He has a lot of skills.

[ScottT]

5 hours ago, Blarg said:

Unless the Angels can get their shit together and build a pitching staff around him, Ohtani is not going to stick with a sub .500 team no matter what the offer. 

Just like Trout...

[Chuck]

 

[ten ocho recon scout]

Ive barely caught any of his starts since the first month, but seems like hes really progressed. Seems like he locates very well now

[ten ocho recon scout]

Another good one for @Lou to bump would be the first spring training one with him..... its crazy how he looked like such a dud....

[ScottT]

4 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Ive barely caught any of his starts since the first month, 

Not me, too

[HanfordGuy]

Ohtani…he’s good.

 

[Stradling]

Just looking at some Ohtani stuff.  In his first four games he walked 19 guys, which is almost 5 per game.  Then it looked like he changed his entire approach.  He was no longer pitching in the uppper 90’s, he is more low to mid 90’s.  He can still dial it up like yesterday where he hit 98 and 99 a few times.  Since then in his last 7 starts he has walked a total of 12 people, or less than 2 per outing.  Kind of incredible.  It feels as though this is more sustainable as well, physically.  

[tdawg87]

He's evolving.

[Taylor]

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

Just looking at some Ohtani stuff.  In his first four games he walked 19 guys, which is almost 5 per game.  Then it looked like he changed his entire approach.  He was no longer pitching in the uppper 90’s, he is more low to mid 90’s.  He can still dial it up like yesterday where he hit 98 and 99 a few times.  Since then in his last 7 starts he has walked a total of 12 people, or less than 2 per outing.  Kind of incredible.  It feels as though this is more sustainable as well, physically.  

Yet, like clockwork, people will freak out about his velocity in the first inning every single time he pitches.

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, Taylor said:

Yet, like clockwork, people will freak out about his velocity in the first inning every single time he pitches.

Yep.  “Something’s  wrong”

[Chuck]

48 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Yep.  “Something’s  wrong with them”

fify

[Stradling]

26 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

fify

Yes

[Revad]

I think I’m turning Japanese, what a great player.  Fuck.  And Trout.  It hasn’t been that bad.