Draft Signings - Angels 2013

[Docwaukee]

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sn-sp-angels-sign-top-draft-pick-20130622,0,2880091.story

 

apparently green is a done deal. 

[m0nkey]

Jon heyman tweeted that he's getting an invite to spring training with the big club. Is that true?

[Tyler]

Yeah, it's in the link.

[greginpsca]

So, only 2 players left unsigned??

[Stradling]

Ok, are the two unsigned going to be tough signs? Or do you think they are just weighing their options? Also, of these two who do we want the team to focus on? Is this a situation where you tell one of them, we have X amount of dollars to sign one of you the first to say yes gets signed?

[John Smith]

4

127

227

Elliot Morris

 

 

RHP

Pierce (Wash.) JC

Wash.

 

 

 

Pool Amt: $397,300

*Pool Limit: $731,700

+Limit w/o Draft Pick Penalty: $881,610

The calculations above assume that all other unsigned picks are signed for the exact pool allotment assigned to that pick *The amount remaining in the bonus pool for this pick. +The maximum the team can spend without losing draft picks

5

157

211

Kyle McGowin

 

 

RHP

Savannah State

Ga.

 

 

 

Pool Amt: $297,600

*Pool Limit: $632,000

+Limit w/o Draft Pick Penalty: $781,910

The calculations above assume that all other unsigned picks are signed for the exact pool allotment assigned to that pick *The amount remaining in the bonus pool for this pick. +The maximum the team can spend without losing draft picks

[John Smith]

Jim Callis ‏@jimcallisBA 1h

#Angels sign 7th-rder Garrett Nuss for $167,100. Seminole State (Fla.) JC RHP, 89-91 to 94, avg brk ball, Central Florida in 2012.

[John Smith]

12

367

256

Blake Goins

 

 

RHP

Pearland (Texas) HS

Texas

 

 

 

Pool Amt: $100,000

*Pool Limit: $434,400

+Limit w/o Draft Pick Penalty: $584,310

The calculations above assume that all other unsigned picks are signed for the exact pool allotment assigned to that pick *The amount remaining in the bonus pool for this pick. +The maximum the team can spend without losing draft picks

[Tyler]

Those limits without pick penalty should be enough to sign each of those guys.

[Scott34]

McGowin has signed for 270K.

 

So this is leaving the Angels with like 600K EXTRA to sign Morris and Goins.

 

Like I said, Morris will be much easier.

[Inside Pitch]

Jon heyman tweeted that he's getting an invite to spring training with the big club. Is that true?

 

 

All that means is the team threw in some sweetener to get him to sign.  

[Inside Pitch]

Goins is a massive UT fanboy.  It would be miraculous if they did sign him.   They have had a good draft signing wise

[John Smith]

4 127 227 Elliot Morris     RHP Pierce (Wash.) JC Wash.  

 

FWIW

From an article dated Wed. 6/17/13:

 

http://www.piercepioneernews.com/2013/06/17/elliot-morris-drafted-to-the-angels/

 

"Morris said he will be leaving Monday to begin his career as a professional athlete. He said he looks forward most to meeting different people and having the opportunity to travel and play baseball at the same time."

[Dreams]

Nice, only one player left unsigned: Goins

[Stradling]

How much can we offer him? How much overslot is it? Will he accept?

[Scott34]

Roughly I think we can offer him 500k over slot. That's how good of a draft we had financially.

Still unlikely he accepts, although that is hard to turn down.

[jsnpritchett]

Goins went in the 12th round.  Is there even "slot value" there?  If so, it can't be much.  10th round slot value is around $130K, I think--so even if they go over that by the overage they have, he'd still only be getting mid-3rd round money...

[Stradling]

So we will lose him more than likely. I'm guessing Arte wishes he would have given Harvey what he wanted out of high school a few years back.

[John Smith]

Goins went in the 12th round.  Is there even "slot value" there?  If so, it can't be much.  10th round slot value is around $130K, I think--so even if they go over that by the overage they have, he'd still only be getting mid-3rd round money...

12 367 256 Blake Goins     RHP Pearland (Texas) HS Texas      

Pool Amt: $100,000 *Pool Limit: $462,000 +Limit w/o Draft Pick Penalty: $611,910 The calculations above assume that all other unsigned picks are signed for the exact pool allotment assigned to that pick *The amount remaining in the bonus pool for this pick. +The maximum the team can spend without losing draft picks

[tdawg87]

I just hope this guy doesn't turn out to be the one guy they should have signed.

 

Thought it's not the Angels' fault. This has still been a solid draft and signing 38 of 39 picks is impressive any way you look at it.

[m0nkey]

Is he any good?

[Angel Oracle]

They were able to give Trumbo $1 million in 2004, and so the $630k they can offer Goins is significantly less given inflation since 2004.

 

A wonderful draft nonetheless in signing all but one draftee!

[Second Base]

There's a time and a place to drop a huge dollar amount on a newly drafted prospect.  Trumbo was one of those cases.  There was no structure as to what a prospect should sign for, no limits, so 1 million on a huge upside guy like Trumbo was a worthy investment.  

 

But Blake Goins?  I just don't see the upside to break the bank with him.  Don't get me wrong, he's a good pitching prospect coming out of high school but I don't see him becoming anything higher than a 3rd or 4th round pick in the future.  If he wants to go to Texas that bad, then let him.  I hope he continues to develop and matures while he's there like Matt Harvey did in college.  

[AZMike]

There's a time and a place to drop a huge dollar amount on a newly drafted prospect.  Trumbo was one of those cases.  There was no structure as to what a prospect should sign for, no limits, so 1 million on a huge upside guy like Trumbo was a worthy investment.  

 

But Blake Goins?  I just don't see the upside to break the bank with him.  Don't get me wrong, he's a good pitching prospect coming out of high school but I don't see him becoming anything higher than a 3rd or 4th round pick in the future.  If he wants to go to Texas that bad, then let him.  I hope he continues to develop and matures while he's there like Matt Harvey did in college.  

 

Does unspent draft allowance "roll over" to future years or is it simply gone? 

[Inside Pitch]

Does unspent draft allowance "roll over" to future years or is it simply gone? 

 

 

Gone, to avoid manipulating things.  Unless they changed it before finalizing the CBA.