Ohtani might be our only decent pitcher

[AngelsFaninGA]

Just now, Stradling said:

Or the sample size of threads like this leave a lot to be desired. 

The sample size is the better part of 10 years, and especially the last 3+. Looking at our pitching rankings going back: 25th, 25th, 19th, 12th, 21st, etc etc

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, AngelsFaninGA said:

The sample size is the better part of 10 years, and especially the last 3+. Looking at our pitching rankings going back: 25th, 25th, 19th, 12th, 21st, etc etc

And the last several years have zero bearing on this year, none. New pitchers, new decision makers.  

[AngelsFaninGA]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

And the last several years have zero bearing on this year, none. New pitchers, new decision makers.  

Zero? Would you like to provide some justification for that? Maybe a statistical analysis that backs up this point? 

TIL that our pitching staff simply materialized out of the void at the beginning of this season and that there is no (specifically, zero) prior history, scouting reports, anything really, that could have been used to make an evaluation of them.

I guess I'm just thinking of different pitchers that have consistently disappointed or gotten injured in prior years, my mistake. With technological advances these days enabling you to create humans in labs and shift the fabric of time and space it's easy to get confused, my apologies. 

[Angelsjunky]

Bundy's had five starts, only one has been bad, the other four are quality starts.

I'd say he's pretty decent.

[Stradling]

15 minutes ago, AngelsFaninGA said:

Zero? Would you like to provide some justification for that? Maybe a statistical analysis that backs up this point? 

TIL that our pitching staff simply materialized out of the void at the beginning of this season and that there is no (specifically, zero) prior history, scouting reports, anything really, that could have been used to make an evaluation of them.

I guess I'm just thinking of different pitchers that have consistently disappointed or gotten injured in prior years, my mistake. With technological advances these days enabling you to create humans in labs and shift the fabric of time and space it's easy to get confused, my apologies. 

Statistical information?  Ok 10 of 16 guys that have pitched this year for the Angels had never pitched fir us before.  Every decision maker in the front office is different. Matt Wise isn’t Callaway.  So yea, zero. 

[fan_since79]

On 4/26/2021 at 12:35 PM, Erstad Grit said:

Saying Bundy is less than decent is a really bad take. 

I'd also argue Cobb and Quintana are "decent". 

No, no, and no.

[stormngt]

On 4/24/2021 at 5:42 PM, fan_since79 said:

It's just how I feel after this disaster of a game.

Bundy's a decent #2-3 pitcher, I'll give you that. But we're not a postseason team with this staff, imo.

It's not the starters.  It's the pen!

[Vlad27Trout27]

I would say that Canning and Othani are our best starters! Which isn't bad, Canning has looked much better than what the ERA suggest, and along with othani its a solid 1-2 punch. 

Heaney is heaney, he pitches like he throws in the mid to uppers 90s, yet is mostly in the low 90s and when he miss up in the zone, the ball isn't coming back. 

Bundy is a command over stuff guy, if he can't command his stuff than its a bad day, and if he can than its good day...well with the lack of wins for him, it's a bad day even when he has a good start

Cobb a bit similar to Bundy, without the extra plus offspeed  stuff/arsenal

Quintana....... I preferred Richards over him..... that's all. 

[Taylor]

On 4/26/2021 at 7:19 AM, Taylor said:

I remember two weeks ago when Heaney was a failure and Cobb was the second coming of Greg Maddux.

I remember two weeks ago when ... oh yeah, we sucked then too.

[T.G.]

Results don't matter!

                         - J.M.

[Taylor]

57 minutes ago, True Grich said:

Results don't matter!

                         - J.M.

John Mellencamp? 

[Dtwncbad]

6 hours ago, Taylor said:

John Mellencamp? 

No, the brilliant Jenny McCarthy.

[tdawg87]

7 hours ago, True Grich said:

Results don't matter!

                         - J.M.

Jeff Mathis?

[T.G.]

Yea

[tdawg87]

Just now, True Grich said:

Yea

Oh

[T.G.]

I meant yes

[tdawg87]

2 minutes ago, True Grich said:

I meant yes

OH. Ok thank you.

[fan_since79]

12 hours ago, stormngt said:

It's not the starters.  It's the pen!

The whole damn team is off. Dysfunctional.

72-90 looks about right. Rinse, lather, repeat. 

[Angels 1961]

Drastic measures are needed. Heaney and Bundy trade value goes down each start. Very little pitching upside in minors. 2022 another make over.

[fan_since79]

Title changed to reflect the current reality.