Cheating Astros still don't get it...

[WicketMaiden]

This statement from Dusty Baker shows the Astros still don't understand why people are angry at their cheating. Saying they have "paid the price... leave it alone" fails to comprehend that not one single player was penalised for cheating: Altuve kept his batting title and MVP; Astros kept their World Series and the players kept their rings; no players were banned or suspended; none of the players came out and said "Yeah, that was a really shitty thing to do to fellow professionals and we're really, really sorry for the damage we have caused to the game and the reputation of baseball. We cheated and I'm sorry". The penalties the club received were pitiful compared to the extra revenue and kudos that comes from winning a World Series.

So, Dusty, allow me to educate you: the kids in the stands are being taught that if you cheat in life and you get caught and then pretty much just shrug your shoulders, the average American is going to rag on your ass big-time until you show some Goddamn humility. 'Fess up, man up and apologise, then take the beating you deserve - that is the lesson their parents are teaching.

OK, rant over. 

 

 

[arch stanton]

Give Dusty a break. He was a vital part of the 2002 championship run

[Angel Oracle]

Go easy on Dusty, he’s only lost eleventy post-season series going back to the 2002 WS.

I agree about parents not showing foul language to the kids.  

The inflatable trash can on the field was funny though.   And none of the players were penalized for the cheating garbage.

Edited April 6, 2021 by Angel Oracle

[Taylor]

Well said. The Astros were spared their well-deserved booing last season, so they should expect it two-fold this season.

[Taylor]

Also, systemic and prolonged cheating that results in tangible unfair benefits is not "making a mistake." A man who serial cheats on his wife would get his nuts cut off if he said, "People make mistakes. Let's just move on."

[Cosmo_Kramer]

17 minutes ago, cals said:

You misspelled “apologize.”

Unless he was using British English

[WicketMaiden]

1 hour ago, Taylor said:

Also, systemic and prolonged cheating that results in tangible unfair benefits is not "making a mistake." A man who serial cheats on his wife would get his nuts cut off if he said, "People make mistakes. Let's just move on."

With the obvious financial gain they achieved, we would call it fraud over here.

[Taylor]

Just now, WicketMaiden said:

With the obvious financial gain they achieved, we would call it fraud over here.

Good point. And they committed the worst sin of all: they made me feel bad for the Dodgers.

[mtangelsfan]

3 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Good point. And they committed the worst sin of all: they made me feel bad for the Dodgers.

Dude....

[gotbeer]

42 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Good point. And they committed the worst sin of all: they made me feel bad for the Dodgers.

Now hold on a sec.  We don't need to jump the shark on page 1.

[eligrba]

Looks like the Astros and Dusty Baker do "get it" and everyone else doesn't.

[Lou]

I'm surprised there hasn't been mention of the real trash can that was thrown onto the field.

I think what happened last night will only fuel the fire of other team's fans this year. 

[gotbeer]

And BTW.  Anyone remember the last time trash was thrown out onto the Angels field in protest?  I do remember something good happening that season.

Fans Try Strike of Their Own

[Taylor]

1 minute ago, gotbeer said:

And BTW.  Anyone remember the last time trash was thrown out onto the Angels field in protest?  I do remember something good happening that season.

Fans Try Strike of Their Own

Something something Scott Schoenweiss

[Mark PT]

5 hours ago, WicketMaiden said:

This statement from Dusty Baker shows the Astros still don't understand why people are angry at their cheating. Saying they have "paid the price... leave it alone" fails to comprehend that not one single player was penalised for cheating: Altuve kept his batting title and MVP; Astros kept their World Series and the players kept their rings; no players were banned or suspended; none of the players came out and said "Yeah, that was a really shitty thing to do to fellow professionals and we're really, really sorry for the damage we have caused to the game and the reputation of baseball. We cheated and I'm sorry". The penalties the club received were pitiful compared to the extra revenue and kudos that comes from winning a World Series.

So, Dusty, allow me to educate you: the kids in the stands are being taught that if you cheat in life and you get caught and then pretty much just shrug your shoulders, the average American is going to rag on your ass big-time until you show some Goddamn humility. 'Fess up, man up and apologise, then take the beating you deserve - that is the lesson their parents are teaching.

OK, rant over. 

 

 

What are kids supposed to think? Really. Has lesson learning sunk this low? Kids will learn what they are taught morn. They will learn not to cheat.

[Lou]

16 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

trash was thrown out onto the Angels field in protest?  I do remember something good happening that season.

Of course.

East Timor gained independence from Indonesia.

[Dtwncbad]

This isn’t binary.

Dusty doesn’t quite get it that people ar justifiably pissed and will remain pissed because they really did not pay for anything.  They got off easy.

And it is also a mess and inappropriate to be verbally out of control with foul language at the games, regardless of why.

[Dtwncbad]

Dusty is making a mess of this.  Maybe he should hand this one off to someone else.

[Inside Pitch]

2 hours ago, Cosmo_Kramer said:

Unless he was using British English

Pretty sure that's how its spelled everywhere but the US and Canada...

[Lou]

8 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Pretty sure that's how its spelled everywhere but the US and Canada...

it tis, innit?

[ScottT]

I'm not gonna bring a sign, spend money on hate gear, or carry a trash can around and throw it on the field.

That stuff didn't do anything for me when I watched on tv last night.

Then Dusty Baker opened his mouth. Unreal. 

[floplag]

No they dont, at all.
They never took responsibility, told everyone to get over it, and got off scott free for years of systematic cheating the likes of which we havent seen since the black sox.
The pandemic spared them the trash talk last year, but fans dont forget.
They think its bad now wiat till they visit NY or LA whom they stole titles from.
In short, STFU Dusty and take it like a man. 

[Don]

25 minutes ago, Lou said:

Of course.

East Timor gained independence from Indonesia.

Timor Leste please.

[Taylor]

2 minutes ago, floplag said:

No they dont, at all.
They never took responsibility, told everyone to get over it, and got off scott free for years of systematic cheating the likes of which we havent seen since the black sox.
The pandemic spared them the trash talk last year, but fans dont forget.
They think its bad now wiat till they visit NY or LA whom they stole titles from.
In short, STFU Dusty and take it like a man. 

Pun intended?

[Lou]

3 minutes ago, Don said:

Timor Leste please.

I don't speak Portuguese.