Arenado to the Cardinals

[Taylor]

So because Arenado makes a ton of money, his value is negative 43? Seems very skewed.

[floplag]

Its a moral imperative that Perry get Marquez and Blackmon out of there.. heck even Gray

[mmc]

29 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

No, I am I said as much in a following post..  I just don't believe the move is really that awful, providing they actually do something with it moving forward.

The way I see it, they had a guy who despite how good he is wasn't going to help them win.  His salary was such that few teams would be willing to trade for him and the longer they keep him, the fewer the "good" years they had him for so, it would only have driven his value down to others.   

Mostly, was trying to compare the situations -- even then, they aren't equitable due to the differences in ages, but it's not as bad for the Rocks as people may think.   Really, it depends on what they do next...

Yeah sorry I hadn’t seen your post where you mentioned it when I quoted you 

[failos]

14 minutes ago, Taylor said:

So because Arenado makes a ton of money, his value is negative 43? Seems very skewed.

I mean, it’s pretty hard to trade someone when they have a contract in the hundreds of millions. Seems pretty sensible to me.

[Fish Oil]

14 minutes ago, Taylor said:

So because Arenado makes a ton of money, his value is negative 43? Seems very skewed.

His value is not negative, his trade value is negative.
One of the top 10 players in the game until he hiccupped in 2020 is a very valuable player to have on a team.

[Taylor]

This makes sense. Thanks, friends (including my good friend @failos)!

[Docwaukee]

16 minutes ago, Taylor said:

So because Arenado makes a ton of money, his value is negative 43? Seems very skewed.

they turn projected value into dollars and subtract what they're getting paid.  

[Docwaukee]

15 hours ago, tdawg87 said:

Holy crap that's a lot of money to be throwing in. 

I hope Minasian is calling on Marquez.

this trade pretty much guarantees that Marquez is going nowhere.  

[Duren, Duren]

Kind of sad watching franchise iconic great players depart to other teams after some acrimony and bitterness. But it's a business and the money is insane these days. 

Most likely we will have Trout his entire career. But even that is not a certainty given possible future events.

I guess productivity has to be sustained within an acceptable range for a long time great to endure with one team. Ted Williams, Mantle, Kaline, Musial, Banks and many more really great players were still good enough in their last years. And fans had intense loyalty. Trading such players would have had severe repercussions. 

Also sad to see greats like Mays and Duke Snider and even Babe Ruth drift to other teams when their play dropped off in their last seasons. Conversely, Frank Robinson was traded when the Reds thought he was declining. All he did was win the MVP and the World Series his first year in Baltimore.

Arenado isn't in an all time great class, but he probably will get HOF votes if he maintains his numbers. Tough for Rockies fans, but bridges were burnt and the finances were excessive. I wonder what other teams offefed? 

[tdawg87]

44 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

this trade pretty much guarantees that Marquez is going nowhere.  

Maybe. 

[Lou]

Has anyone mentioned that the Cards added an extra year for $15 million to his contract?

[jsnpritchett]

The Cards added an extra year for $15 to his contract.

[jsnpritchett]

2 minutes ago, Lou said:

Has anyone mentioned that the Cards added an extra year for $15 million to his contract?

Yes.

[Lou]

16 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

The Cards added an extra year for $15 to his contract.

Link?

[ukyah]

13 minutes ago, Lou said:

Link?

[Mark68]

17 hours ago, rafibomb said:

I don’t know if the Rockies are officially sellers or are just being dumb.

Yes

 

People I know here in the Denver area are PISSED. They want Brdich's head on a platter...

[Inside Pitch]

34 minutes ago, Lou said:

Link?

 

[Lou]

41 minutes ago, ukyah said:

 

[mmc]

 

[disarcina]

Cards are going to have some power at the corners - Arenado and Goldschmidt -

they have signed Wainwright back for a one year deal and should lock up YADIER for another year maybe two years, soon,

Arenado might not have as many HRs now that he is not playing half the season at Coors Field, but he hits for an average and have something like five gold gloves at third.  Cost a bundle (Colorado still contributing about $50 million towards that contract) but makes for a solid infield - DeYoung at SS - bot sure who plays 2B, Assume Carpenter is gone,  

[Lou]

On 1/29/2021 at 7:09 PM, Tank said:

looks like a good time to call them about charlie blackmon.

He's batting .174

[Lou]

Arenado's numbers:

.345 BA

.367/.586/.953

163 OPS+

[Blarg]

Yeah but what are his away splits...