Angels sign Jose Quintana (1 year, $8 million)

[Warfarin]

24 minutes ago, Erstad Grit said:

2014-2017 Quintana was very good. Since then he's been downtrending and recently injury problems. 

For me, if healthy, is a solid 3-4 type innings eater, yet IMO that's not what we need unless it is in addition to acquiring a top starter.

I said the exact same sentiment when we signed Teheran. I stated if we paired him with Ryu I liked it......but a top of the rotation starter never came.

 

Sure, and I support the stance that if Quintana is our only addition, it is disappointing.  However, the offseason is not over.  If we acquire someone like Gray to go along with Quintana, then we have added a SP1/SP2 along with a solid SP3, which is fantastic IMO.

[ScottT]

I think the Angels needed a solid innings eater.

[happybat4]

1 hour ago, beatlesrule said:

We won in 2002 without an ace

Washburn was pretty good that year. Lots of innings pitched 7th in ERA and ended up 4th in CY Young voting. 

[angelsnationtalk]

Hey good news is we have about 6 total #3-#4 guys..... woo.....

Same as when we had Teheran, Harvey and Cahill..... 

[Docwaukee]

5 minutes ago, Randy Gradishar said:

9 pages?

we're only about halfway.  

[Stradling]

1 hour ago, floplag said:

If Quintana was plan B, were screwed.
Which is to say i dont think it changed anything, hes just another supplemental piece.
So far this off season is giving me the faint whiff of... peanuts. 

Quintana isn't plan B.  He very well could be part of plan B.  He could be part of plan A.  We don't know.  There is zero reason to think this is all they will be doing, which calling Quintana plan B is implying that.  

[Stradling]

54 minutes ago, ScottT said:

I think the Angels needed a solid innings eater.

Yep.  The Angels lacked health in the rotation even more than they lack talent in the rotation.  

[Bronson]

38 minutes ago, angelsnationtalk said:

Hey good news is we have about 6 total #3-#4 guys..... woo.....

Same as when we had Teheran, Harvey and Cahill..... 

I would say Bundy is on the edge of a #2-#3. 

[Erstad Grit]

3 minutes ago, Bronson said:

I would say Bundy is on the edge of a #2-#3. 

Agreed. Heaney is a solid 3 as well

[Stradling]

42 minutes ago, angelsnationtalk said:

Hey good news is we have about 6 total #3-#4 guys..... woo.....

Same as when we had Teheran, Harvey and Cahill..... 

This is neither funny or accurate, well done.  

Let me ask you this.  Are you more comfortable with Heaney, Bundy, Canning, Barria or with Teheran, Harvey and Cahill?  

[Angels in 2030]

21 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Yep.  The Angels lacked health in the rotation even more than they lack talent in the rotation.  

So is Quintana the healthy innings eater?  Pre-2020 he was, but he made one start last year pitching 10 innings total due to injury.  Not pointing at you...it seems several people are mentioning we needed (past tense mostly used) health & inning eater.  To 100% say Quintana is that for 2021 is somewhat in question and possibly wishful thinking.  We keep getting guys "hoping" for health, rebound, etc.  It's getting old quite honestly.  

[Stradling]

Just now, Fourts said:

So is Quintana the healthy innings eater?  Pre-2020 he was, but he made one start last year pitching 10 innings total due to injury.  Not pointing at you...it seems several people are mentioning we needed (past tense mostly used) health & inning eater.  To 100% say Quintana is that for 2021 is somewhat in question and possibly wishful thinking.  We keep getting guys "hoping" for health, rebound, etc.  It's getting old quite honestly.  

He had thumb surgery.  That is different in my eyes than an elbow or shoulder or oblique type of injury that can reoccur.  

[floplag]

31 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Quintana isn't plan B.  He very well could be part of plan B.  He could be part of plan A.  We don't know.  There is zero reason to think this is all they will be doing, which calling Quintana plan B is implying that.  

i said "IF", not that he was.

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, floplag said:

i said "IF", not that he was.

ok, there is zero reason to think he will be.

[floplag]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

ok, there is zero reason to think he will be.

The last few off season bed to differ... but, im hoping thats changed. 

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, floplag said:

The last few off season bed to differ... but, im hoping thats changed. 

The last few off seasons have as much to do with this off season as 2004 when we signed Vlad, Guillen, Bartolo and Escobar.  Or in the 80's when we signed guys like Zahn, Reggie, Candelaria, Sutton.  

[Taylor]

1 hour ago, Randy Gradishar said:

9 pages?

 

1 hour ago, Dochalo said:

we're only about halfway.  

 

And a thread about the Angels possibly signing Quintana would have had at least 6 additional pages by now.

[floplag]

12 minutes ago, Stradling said:

The last few off seasons have as much to do with this off season as 2004 when we signed Vlad, Guillen, Bartolo and Escobar.  Or in the 80's when we signed guys like Zahn, Reggie, Candelaria, Sutton.  

I agree, but, until i see the end result, which i hope is very different, the point stands. 

[angelsnationtalk]

45 minutes ago, Stradling said:

This is neither funny or accurate, well done.  

Let me ask you this.  Are you more comfortable with Heaney, Bundy, Canning, Barria or with Teheran, Harvey and Cahill?  

It's not funny because it's a constant reality for the Angels. 

Neither. Quite disappointed with both.

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, floplag said:

I agree, but, until i see the end result, which i hope is very different, the point stands. 

Cool, so we can stop the Brandon Wood comparisons.

[Buttercup]

I like this move for the simple reason the Angels are better today than yesterday. I’ll keep hope they’re better tomorrow than today...

[Inside Pitch]

27 minutes ago, Fourts said:

So is Quintana the healthy innings eater?  Pre-2020 he was, but he made one start last year pitching 10 innings total due to injury.  Not pointing at you...it seems several people are mentioning we needed (past tense mostly used) health & inning eater.  To 100% say Quintana is that for 2021 is somewhat in question and possibly wishful thinking.  We keep getting guys "hoping" for health, rebound, etc.  It's getting old quite honestly.  

He cut his thumb washing dishes.   

[AngelsLakersFan]

I love this signing, obviously, especially at this price. I've been pushing for him for some time since I really haven't expected the Angels to actually be in on Bauer. I know a lot of you are disappointed but this is about as good of a signing as Minasian could make given the budgetary limitations he's under and without giving up significant prospects. We'll probably see one more high upside starter brought it, based on the cost. Maybe Gray if the prospect ask isn't too high, or someone like Richards if the money is right. 

[Taylor]

Just now, Inside Pitch said:

He cut his thumb washing dishes.   

I put the over/under at 80% that Heaney has to go on the IL for "elbow soreness" after receiving the COVID vaccine.

[Inside Pitch]

1 minute ago, Taylor said:

I put the over/under at 80% that Heaney has to go on the IL for "elbow soreness" after receiving the COVID vaccine.

Heaney, Canning, definitely, Ohtani.   All three are injury risks, adding a guy that if nothing else has managed to avoid non dishwashing injuries is a plus.