More pitchers coming off the board, are you worried yet?

[floplag]

6 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Yea, I will go back to your initial question, why have we waited.  The obvious reason why we have waited is because the price is too high for any starting pitcher on the free agent market.  We have waited just like all 30 teams have waited on the free agent pitching market.  Those prices are not going to go up the closer we get to spring training, they never do.  The supply for quality free agent pitching is exactly the same as it was when free agency started.  

OK so just being argumentative... got it.  

[Stradling]

17 minutes ago, floplag said:

OK so just being argumentative... got it.  

No, kettle I am not being argumentative.  Sorry I hurt your feelings.  

[Inside Pitch]

27 minutes ago, floplag said:

Except you ignored the part you actually highlighted.
I did not say because of Musgrave, i said every one of these guys that signs he gets more expensive, or, simply supply and demand. 
You should know this.

LOL..  Supply and demand is a two part equation. 

As guys get signed, theoretically demand also lessens.  This has never been more true than during a time when teams are all claiming to be poor because of lost revenue in 2020 and potentially, 2021.    

Bauer's market is it's own.  He's in his own class as a FA and a big reason why is because few teams can afford him at what was his established asking prices.
 

[Inside Pitch]

29 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Yea, I will go back to your initial question, why have we waited.  The obvious reason why we have waited is because the price is too high for any starting pitcher on the free agent market.  We have waited just like all 30 teams have waited on the free agent pitching market.  Those prices are not going to go up the closer we get to spring training, they never do.  The supply for quality free agent pitching is exactly the same as it was when free agency started.  

Or you know, it doesn't matter what the Angels or any of the other 29 MLB teams want, it's his decision to make and he hasn't made it yet.

 

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, Inside Pitch said:

Or you know, it doesn't matter what the Angels or any of the other 29 MLB teams want, it's his decision to make and he hasn't made it yet.

 

Right.  Bauer or any free agent can be signed today.  Every single one of them.  Hell Bauer can go and get $100 million guaranteed by noon today, all he has to do is go to one of 10 teams and say he wants $100 million over 5 years and the teams willing to sign him for that will be long.  Off the top of my head here are the teams that would sign him for that amount:

Padres

Angels

Dodgers

Giants

A’s (if there isn’t a no trade clause)

Mariners

White Sox

Twins

Cleveland (if there isn’t a no trade clause)

Tigers

Red Sox

Yankees

Blue Jays

Mets

Braves

Nationals

Cardinals

Brewers

Marlins

and I am sure I am missing a few.  

[eligrba4ever]

What? Me Worry? No. Que sera sera.

EDIT: I am worried I won't win the 01-19-21 MegaMillions 

[Lou]

8 hours ago, Inside Pitch said:

Or you know, it doesn't matter what the Angels or any of the other 29 MLB teams want, it's his decision to make and he hasn't made it yet.

 

This is obviously a difficult concept for most fans to grasp.

[Docwaukee]

10 minutes ago, Lou said:

This is obviously a difficult concept for most fans to grasp.

you mean that the baseball off season isn't like going to Target and just picking what you want off the shelves?  

[Lou]

1 minute ago, Dochalo said:

you mean that the baseball off season isn't like going to Target and just picking what you want off the shelves?  

Minasian needs to shop at nicer stores. 

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, Dochalo said:

you mean that the baseball off season isn't like going to Target and just picking what you want off the shelves?  

I used this analogy earlier this off season. 

[Docwaukee]

28 minutes ago, Lou said:

Minasian needs to shop at nicer stores. 

what's nicer than Target?  

[Docwaukee]

Buffums'?

[mmc]

Hopefully with us getting Quintana everyone relaxes a little, even though we obviously still need more to go along with him.

[Angels 1961]

Richards gone field is getting small

[floplag]

Not getting nervous yet, but i can feel it start to gain a little momentum... lol

[Justin]

In the last five seasons, Richards has made 41 total starts and has more torn UCLs (2) than complete games (0)... and I'm slightly bummed the Angels didn't re-sign him.

I hate this offseason. 

[eligrba]

Not worried about Richards being signed.  The Angels will probably have the IL covered with other players and don't need Richards.

[greginpsca]

On 1/19/2021 at 6:07 PM, Dochalo said:

Buffums'?

Hasn't Buffums been out of business for at least a decade?

[tdawg87]

I'm sick of reclamation projects. I never wanted Richards so good luck to him.

[ten ocho recon scout]

On 1/19/2021 at 5:37 PM, Lou said:

Minasian needs to shop at nicer stores. 

Like sky mall. 

[Docwaukee]

1 hour ago, greginpsca said:

Hasn't Buffums been out of business for at least a decade?

yes.  that was part of the joke and you RUINED IT!!

[IEAngelsfan]

4 hours ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Like sky mall. 

I would look at those mags on flights and wondered who would buy that stuff.

[Vlad27Trout27]

I'm bored!

[Second Base]

I'm no longer concerned. I think our aim was off in the first place. It seems the Angels goal from the beginning was to be able to bring in two back end starters, not unlike Eppler with Bundy-Teheran or Harvey-Cahill. 

Minasian has brought in Quintana and I trust he'll bring in another, likely Odorizzi or Tanaka. 

If his goal was to be able to bring in a pitcher to pitch at the front of the rotation and be a game changer, then my concern would be through the roof. The Angels failed to do that, if they tried. If they didn't try then they didn't fail, they were just wrong in their assessment of team needs. 

Bauer is still out there I guess. I'm just not seeing a whole lot of reason to believe he will sign here. It's like Adrian Beltre all over again. Everyone knew the Angels needed him and had the money and given the amount of time he spent in So-Cal that winter, it certainly didn't seem he minded being in the area, and yet Reagins managed to blow it. That one haunted them every year until he retired. 

Bauer is a So-Cal native, the Angels employ his former pitching coach which may or may not be a benefit, Bauer is familiar with their trainers and seems to have quirks that Joe Maddon would actually really admire. The Angels have the money and certainly have the need, and yet something tells me it's not going to happen. 

 

Edited January 24, 2021 by Second Base

[BTH]

9 minutes ago, Second Base said:

I'm no longer concerned. I think our aim was off in the first place. It seems the Angels goal from the beginning was to be able to bring in two back end starters, not unlike Eppler with Bundy-Teheran or Harvey-Cahill. 

Yeah, I think this is the biggest thing.

The availability of guys like Darvish, Musgrove, and Snell and the rumored availability of Castillo and Gray made fans, myself included, become enamored with one of those guys. In all likelihood, it was likely never a real focus for the Angels. I'm sure they checked in, but they just don't have the farm system other teams do.