Angels linked to Tomoyuki Sugano, deadline is 1/7 (update: stays in NPB)

[RedEyeBleed]

[Vlad27Trout27]

well...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Revad]

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37 minutes ago, eligrba said:

 

So.......you’re saying there’s a chance?

 

17 minutes ago, Second Base said:

4/56 isn't unreasonable. Is it steep? Yeah absolutely. We've already seen, ALL starting pitching prices are steep. Cole, Wheeler, Corbin, Strasburg..... They all got too much. 

That's just how much you have to be willing to pay more. When guys like Robbie Ray and Drew Smyly are making 10 million, you know anything decent will cost 15.

 

I get it but those guys have some upside.  

[Revad]

If you’re paying for future performance you need to gamble.

[Lazorko Saves]

19 minutes ago, Vlad27Trout27 said:

well...

[Vlad27Trout27]

He made 6 Mil last year in Japan, and may get a small raise close to 7/8 mil

 

 

 

So a team isnt willing to pay him close to this value? add incentives and maybe options? 

id offer him a 27 mil over 3 years contract, with incentives.

than in the contract I'd off him two options.

1. a opt out clause after the 2nd year or opt in into 3 additions years, with the last year being an team option

 

so it could be a 2 year deal or a 4/5 year deal if he performances 

Base Salary             Incentives

9 Mil.                           +3 mil

9 Mil.                           +3 mil

opt out or opt in for 3 years

9 Mil.                           +5 mil

7 Mil.                            +3 mil

7 Mil.                   

total with out Incentives 

41 mil over 5 years 

 

with Incentives 

55 Mil over 5 years 

 

 

[BTH]

Hmm...

 

 

[Lazorko Saves]

I would like to have seen a photo of Arte's face when he first heard Sugano was asking for 5.8 billion.

[Second Base]

5 minutes ago, Revad said:

I get it but those guys have some upside.  

As does one of the most accomplished pitchers in Japanese history.

[BTH]

"Until the deadline arrives other clubs could always jump in late, but some observers suspect the Blue Jays may now be frontrunners among MLB teams."

https://www.sportsnet.ca/mlb/article/suganos-decision-will-fallout-blue-jays-pitching-market/

 

[Erstad Grit]

1 minute ago, Trendon said:

"Until the deadline arrives other clubs could always jump in late, but some observers suspect the Blue Jays may now be frontrunners among MLB teams."

https://www.sportsnet.ca/mlb/article/suganos-decision-will-fallout-blue-jays-pitching-market/

 

So Jays get Sugano

Mets get Springer

We get Bauer!

[BTH]

Even if the Angels don't sign Sugano, it's probably in their best interest that Sugano signs with an MLB team because that would help eliminate a rotation need for another team.

[Pancake Bear]

10 minutes ago, Trendon said:

Even if the Angels don't sign Sugano, it's probably in their best interest that Sugano signs with an MLB team because that would help eliminate a rotation need for another team.

Yeah, Jays or Mets would be the best case scenario if the Angels don't sign him. Might be the best regardless. 

[ukyah]

i'm all for guys getting paid, but these reports are turning me off to him, and they seem to be accurate based off the fact that he hasn't signed. if the blue jays have a "bullish" offer on him, which i'd bet is more than he's ever made per year before, but it's still not good enough because he has a certain need to make what a countryman is making, even though he'll make less by returning to japan. that tells me he's not the kind of player i'd be interested in. that starts raising "already paid" alarms in my head. if true, then no thank you, sugano.

[Revad]

33 minutes ago, Lazorko Saves said:

I would like to have seen a photo of Arte's face when he first heard Sugano was asking for 5.8 billion.

He might have been puckered up a bit.

[Second Base]

37 minutes ago, Trendon said:

Hmm...

 

 

Complicated is Heyman-speak for, " The owner of the hand that's shoved so far up my ass that it makes my mouth move, Scott Boras, hasn't told me to tweet anything.

[tdawg87]

At this point I'm convinced Jon Heyman doesn't even watch baseball.

[Angel Oracle]

Sooo, it’s down to Bauer and Odorizzi as solid FA starting pitchers?

 

[greginpsca]

20 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

Sooo, it’s down to Bauer and Odorizzi as solid FA starting pitchers?

 

And it sounds like the Red Sox are going after Odorizzi.

[Revad]

There are other options but something needs to be done.  If it’s Odorizzi and make a trade or Bauer and make a trade that’s fine.

[Angelsjunky]

2 hours ago, Revad said:

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It’s a pretty crazy day

Translated from Japanese twitter: "No fucking way am I going to that shithole country now."

[Angelsjunky]

4/$56M is a bit too rich, imo, for an unproven (in the majors) pitcher. I'd probably stop at 4/$48 or 3/$39.

[tdawg87]

I have a feeling we aren't going to like the pitchers Minasian brings in. He'll sign Quintana and make a trade for a Bundy 2.0. 

[T.G.]

2 hours ago, Lazorko Saves said:

I would like to have seen a photo of Arte's face when he first heard Sugano was asking for 5.8 billion.

[tdawg87]

That's one wrinkly man.