Obama administration collecting your phone records from Verizon

[fan_since79]

"all calling records", on an "ongoing, daily basis".

 

Millions of customers affected. What the hell is going on?!

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/06/us-usa-wiretaps-verizon-idUSBRE95502920130606

 

 

 

 

[arch stanton]

I don't know how anyone who ever read any part of the Patriot Act can possibly be surprised by this.

[mtangelsfan]

Thanks Bush, thanks Obama.

 

Rights going down the drain faster than the Angels season, but this thread will have lttle participation.  We get the government we deserve.

[fan_since79]

[nate]

Fourth amendment be damned.  The Patriot Act is the most appalling thing this government has done over the last decade.

[TobiasFunke]

Fourth amendment be damned.  The Patriot Act is the most appalling thing this government has done over the last decade.

And one of the most appalling in it's existence (and there's a lot of appalling things we've done)

[Taylor]

Here's another article about it from that conservative rag the L.A. Times:

 

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-obama-defends-verizon-data-collection-20130606,0,4449398.story

[Taylor]

I don't think we'll be hearing from red or LTH in this thread. If we do, it will be the predictable, "But Republican administrations do the same thing" response.

[mtangelsfan]

Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, a secret court that meets in Washington

 

That sentence is fricking scary as hell.

[nate]

I just don't understand how this hasn't been defeated by the supreme court already.

[fan_since79]

I don't think we'll be hearing from red or LTH in this thread. If we do, it will be the predictable, "But Republican administrations do the same thing" response.

Yeah, Bush started it, so he's to blame.

 

/sarc

[fan_since79]

Thanks Bush, thanks Obama.

 

Rights going down the drain faster than the Angels season, but this thread will have lttle participation.  We get the government we deserve.

I guess the administration has never heard of this:

 

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

[Taylor]

I bet Obama wanted to stop it, but the Republicans in Congress won't let him.

[nate]

So Bush isn't to blame?

 

He absolutely is to blame.  So is this administration for perpetuating it.

[fan_since79]

I just don't understand how this hasn't been defeated by the supreme court already.

The Court can only rule on lawsuits or appeals brought before it. They can't take any action here on their own.

[fan_since79]

I bet Obama wanted to stop it, but the Republicans in Congress won't let him.

The funds to stop it were part of the sequester, so Obama's hands are tied.

 

Bad Republicans!

[nate]

The Court can only rule on lawsuits or appeals brought before it. They can't take any action here on their own.

 

Yeah I understand that, I am sure the ACLU or some similar organization has filed suit.

[fan_since79]

So Bush isn't to blame?

 

He absolutely is to blame.  So is this administration for perpetuating it.

Most probably, the current administration has expanded it considerably, not merely perpetuated it.

 

I have no problem with blaming Bush for starting it, though. But if they're going to shrug their shoulders and give Obama a pass here, I'll have a big problem with that.

[nate]

Most probably, the current administration has expanded it considerably, not merely perpetuated it.

 

That is pure speculation.

 

 

I have no problem with blaming Bush for starting it, though. But if they're going to shrug their shoulders and give Obama a pass here, I'll have a big problem with that.

 

I do.  The farce of impending terrorism allowed Bush and now Obama to blatantly and excessively invade our privacy.

[fan_since79]

Well, there really is a threat of terrorism. 9/11 was not a farce.

 

But clearly the government has overreached in invading our privacy. No question about it.

 

I would agree that the Patriot Act was a very poor response to the original problem.

[Ray McKigney]

This is exactly why I be usin' Boost Mobile.

[St1ck]

This is exactly why I be usin' Boost Mobile.

 

 

 

You strike me more as a burner kind of guy. 

[fan_since79]

Harry Reid said to calm down, it's just routine and no big deal.

 

Okay, Harry, if you say so.

 

 

[TennAngelsFan]

I guess I am in bad trouble. I have photos in my Verizon account of me wearing an American flag T-shirt with the provocative words I love America. Even worse I sometimes wear a ball cap that says proudly served River Rats Mekong Delta 1968. I suspect one even has me carrying a flag that said "Don't tread on me" in front of my congressman's office when he voted to squander my grandkids future earnings. Big Brother has a long memory and reaches far.

Pondering what a attorney will cost.

[fan_since79]

This is exactly why I be usin' Boost Mobile.

Did you know they can listen in on you even if your cell phone is off? Yep, they can activate the microphone and eavesdrop to their hearts' delight.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjEA9gEEfpU&feature=youtu.be