Angels in on McCann?

[T.G.]

2 hours ago, Torridd said:

I'm interested in anyone who makes the Angels better.

I know a guy.

[ten ocho recon scout]

12 hours ago, Pancake Bear said:

Is McCann Minasian's plan?

 

[ukyah]

6 hours ago, UndertheHalo said:

Hmm.  I thought people were saying McCann would get more then that.  Anyway. 

keep in mind mccann was a busy backup last year to yasmani grandal. basically he played C when grandal was playing 1st. the 4 year market for him is weird, and very suspect.

[Angel Oracle]

15 hours ago, ukyah said:

well, i mean, he does have a plan. he's not just out there blind folded in the dark playing seven minutes in heaven with free agents.

wtf?

also, before anybody else does it:

everybody has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth.

[sportstr44]

 

[failos]

The Phillies lol. I have a very difficult time trusting Heyman.

[Pancake Bear]

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/white-sox/dallas-keuchel-i-hold-out-hope-james-mccann-returns-white-sox

Keuchel and Giolito are huge fans, fwiw. 

[DMVol]

44 minutes ago, failos said:

The Phillies lol. I have a very difficult time trusting Heyman.

He is doing work for McCann’s agent....

[ELEVEN]

Yes We McCann?

[Warfarin]

2 hours ago, sportstr44 said:

 

In this market, I have to imagine if they truly had strong offers, McCann would probably have accepted.  I doubt anyone has offered 4 years.

[angelsnationtalk]

3 hours ago, sportstr44 said:

 

Wake me up when the tweet reads "The Angels have made a strong offer to Bauer and are in contact with the Rays about Snell."

[Stradling]

5 minutes ago, angelsnationtalk said:

Wake me up when the tweet reads "The Angels have made a strong offer to Bauer and are in contact with the Rays about Snell."

I’m probably not going to do that, sorry.  

[failos]

1 hour ago, DMVol said:

He is doing work for McCann’s agent....

He’s a piece of shit. His name should be banned from this forum.

[Lou]

52 minutes ago, ELEVEN said:

Yes We McCann?

Sigh...

You owe me another beer.

[totdprods]

The way the Angels FO operates, I think if we were going to sign McCann, it would have happened by now. In fact, I think it would have happened within hours of those last tweets as the Mets were closing in.

I suspect the Angels made a strong offer, perhaps one still on the table, and this is McCann waiting to see if anyone else jumps in with a higher offer. 

I don’t think the Angels are making a last-ditch attempt at this point to pull him away from whatever NYM is offering or upping their own offer. 

[T.G.]

32 minutes ago, totdprods said:

The way the Angels FO operates...

Ok

 

[Angelsjunky]

I know a lot of folks are Bauer or Bust, but I'm not sure which is better:

Bauer + decent reliever + backup catcher, or

Odorizzi + Hand + McCann

+ clean peanuts to flesh out rotation depth in either case.

The difference between Bauer and Odorizzi is probably +3 WAR. Hand takes back 1 of those, and McCann the other two. The Angels, then, aren't putting all of their improvement into one player, but spread out over three.

Edited December 11, 2020 by Angelsjunky

[Warfarin]

6 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

I know a lot of folks are Bauer or Bust, but I'm not sure which is better:

Bauer + decent reliever + backup catcher, or

Odorizzi + Hand + McCann

+ clean peanuts to flesh out rotation depth in either case.

The difference between Bauer and Odorizzi is probably +3 WAR. Hand takes back 1 of those, and McCann the other two. The Angels, then, aren't putting all of their improvement into one player, but spread out over three.

Maybe Arte will surprise us and spend on both Bauer + McCann, then fill out the rest of the needs with guys earning close to the minimum.  I'd actually be supportive of that, because I think we can likely find 1-2 under-the-radar relievers for very little.

[Angel Oracle]

On 12/9/2020 at 7:46 PM, Vegas Halo Fan said:

I must be looking at the wrong McCann, because the one that I looked up was born in 1984.

At least there aren’t 6 McCanns, like there seems to be Jose Riveras.

[Docwaukee]

14 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

I know a lot of folks are Bauer or Bust, but I'm not sure which is better:

Bauer + decent reliever + backup catcher, or

Odorizzi + Hand + McCann

+ clean peanuts to flesh out rotation depth in either case.

The difference between Bauer and Odorizzi is probably +3 WAR. Hand takes back 1 of those, and McCann the other two. The Angels, then, aren't putting all of their improvement into one player, but spread out over three.

personally think Odorizzi could be a total bust.  Not sure Hand is worth the cost (depends on the cost of course).  And I'm not overly confident that McCann will continue his current success for 3-4 years.  

So it's option one for me.  

[Angelsjunky]

9 minutes ago, Warfarin said:

Maybe Arte will surprise us and spend on both Bauer + McCann, then fill out the rest of the needs with guys earning close to the minimum.  I'd actually be supportive of that, because I think we can likely find 1-2 under-the-radar relievers for very little.

Possible, I guess, but I think someone will overspend on McCann and give him $10M, with Bauer getting around $30M...add in under-the-radar guys and clean peanuts and we're talking another +$45-50M. Not sure Arte is up for that.

[Angel Oracle]

15 hours ago, Pancake Bear said:

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/white-sox/dallas-keuchel-i-hold-out-hope-james-mccann-returns-white-sox

Keuchel and Giolito are huge fans, fwiw. 

Both have been dominant with the ChiSox.

[Warfarin]

4 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

Possible, I guess, but I think someone will overspend on McCann and give him $10M, with Bauer getting around $30M...add in under-the-radar guys and clean peanuts and we're talking another +$45-50M. Not sure Arte is up for that.

Yeah, agreed.  Maybe they can find someone like McCann who can have a similar impact on the pitching staff but, perhaps, less offense or something along those lines.

I'd support Bauer + good defensive catcher + under-the-radar guys to fill out the team.

Or, alternatively, McCann + trade for significant SP (Snell/Darvish/Gray/Marquez).  If it's Snell or Marquez, it assuredly involves Adell.  For Darvish or Gray, not Adell, but probably just about anyone else.

[Angel Oracle]

30 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

I know a lot of folks are Bauer or Bust, but I'm not sure which is better:

Bauer + decent reliever + backup catcher, or

Odorizzi + Hand + McCann

+ clean peanuts to flesh out rotation depth in either case.

The difference between Bauer and Odorizzi is probably +3 WAR. Hand takes back 1 of those, and McCann the other two. The Angels, then, aren't putting all of their improvement into one player, but spread out over three.

Bauer + Archie Bradley + Suzuki and counting on Stassi’s hip being fine once healed ?

Or Odorizzi + Bradley + McCann with the extra money used for a solid short term RF like Pillar ?

Move Sandoval to the pen as the key lefty there.

Iglesias, Mayers, and Bradley is a plenty good enough back-end.

Edited December 11, 2020 by Angel Oracle

[eligrba]