The Official Non-Tender Deadline Thread (Angels non-tender Middleton, Robles, Andriese, Anderson, and Milner)

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[jsnpritchett]

So looks like my estimates were roughly right.  Still confused about Milner, though.

[Chuck]

Let's sign Archie Bradley!! 

[Chuck]

4 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

How many on the 40 man now?

With today’s transactions, the Angels 40-man roster currently stands at 34 players.

[Hubs]

Just now, Chuckster70 said:

With today’s transactions, the Angels 40-man roster currently stands at 34 players.

They were at 38, non tendered five and added one. Ok. 

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[Kendo36]

So satisfying to cut all those bums. After all the pain they have delivered!! 

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[Warfarin]

11 minutes ago, Pancake Bear said:

That's really the only one that surprises me. The others were all predictable. Andriese is the only really questionable move, IMO. 

Same here, but it's possible that Maddon was just using him as frequently as he did because he didn't really have many options.

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[Warfarin]

There are so many relievers on the market now after all these non-tenders, it is incredible.  We should be able to scoop up multiple relievers at a very low cost.

Someone I'd be interested in as well is David Dahl, LHH corner OF who was non-tendered by the Rockies.  Think he'd make for a good platoon in RF with Ward and would be an upgrade over Schebler.

[Pancake Bear]

1 minute ago, Warfarin said:

Same here, but it's possible that Maddon was just using him as frequently as he did because he didn't really have many options.

Sure, and with how volatile relievers are, and the fact that his 'success' was over a small sample size, it isn't a gigantic shock that Minasian didn't want to give him 2-3m. I kinda thought they would, but it isn't like it isn't defensible. 

[Warfarin]

1 minute ago, Pancake Bear said:

Sure, and with how volatile relievers are, and the fact that his 'success' was over a small sample size, it isn't a gigantic shock that Minasian didn't want to give him 2-3m. I kinda thought they would, but it isn't like it isn't defensible. 

Yeah.  I think we probably see why, too.  For ~3mil, there are just so many good, solid relievers available now, that he can likely better spend that 3mil on someone else.

Regardless, I expect a lot of reliever churning, given we basically just cleaned out the house.

[AngelsLakersFan]

16 minutes ago, Pancake Bear said:

That's really the only one that surprises me. The others were all predictable. Andriese is the only really questionable move, IMO. 

I dont like the move... Obviously this is just a marginal thing but I dont expect us to find six guys who will be better and cheaper. If they do we are going to the playoffs!

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[jsnpritchett]

3 minutes ago, Warfarin said:

There are so many relievers on the market now after all these non-tenders, it is incredible.  We should be able to scoop up multiple relievers at a very low cost.

Someone I'd be interested in as well is David Dahl, LHH corner OF who was non-tendered by the Rockies.  Think he'd make for a good platoon in RF with Ward and would be an upgrade over Schebler.

He's a brutal defender, though.  Even worse than Schebler.

[AngelsLakersFan]

15 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

So looks like my estimates were roughly right.  Still confused about Milner, though.

Im not sure, but I suppose it's possible he just sucks and they cut along with everyone else today, lol.

[jsnpritchett]

Just now, AngelsLakersFan said:

Im not sure, but I suppose it's possible he just sucks and they cut along with everyone else today, lol.

Yep, certainly a possibility.  Even though he wasn't arbitration eligible, I guess they figured it just wasn't worth the hassle to bring him back at the minimum/slightly above.

[Warfarin]

2 minutes ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

Im not sure, but I suppose it's possible he just sucks and they cut along with everyone else today, lol.

Yeah, he wasn't even arbitration eligible, lol.  The fact that we cut bait with him despite earning the minimum shows what Minasian thinks about him, lol

[Erstad Grit]

26 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

I don’t get non-tendering Andriese, since he was going to make under $2 million and had a great September.

Completely agree. 

He showed a lot when Ohtani got bombed 

[totdprods]

Re: non-tendering Andriese, I think it simply comes down to the bullpen as a whole, and not his individual performance. Sure, at $2m, he's a reasonable guy to keep. 

But when you can non-tender Bedrosian, Robles, Middleton, Anderson, Andriese, and Milner, you're saving like $10m and opening up a lot of space. Half of those guys should be replaced by cheaper guys or guys with options anyway...Reyes, Sandoval, Yan, Chris Rodriguez right off the bat stand out as potential '21 relief help who have options and will cost nada. 

Use that $10m to sign a couple solid relievers and it will balance out. 

[Lazorko Saves]

Ugh, another year of Gas Can Noe blowing up those 1-run/tied games.  (While he goes lights out when in all those 5+ run games so ya'll can point to how good his numbers are.)

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