The Official 2020-2021 Hot Stove Offseason Thread

[rafibomb]

14 minutes ago, Hubs said:

Cubs are shopping Contreras.

 

I'd imagine the Angels will be extremely interested here.

[totdprods]

If be surprised if they moved Hendricks, but of course if they do, the Angels should be there. If they wanted to eat crazy money on Heyward I would listen, but it would have to be a big steaming salary dump they’d be willing to make. 

[Second Base]

Wilson Contreras, identified as a primary trade target for the Angels on an annual basis. Queue the next three pages on trade proposals that we totally think would work. 

AngelsWin Challenge: Construct a trade proposal for Contreras, using only Angels prospects and players that do not have the letter A in their first order last name.

Go!

[angelsnationtalk]

4 minutes ago, totdprods said:

If be surprised if they moved Hendricks, but of course if they do, the Angels should be there. If they wanted to eat crazy money on Heyward I would listen, but it would have to be a big steaming salary dump they’d be willing to make. 

Something along these lines I would do. Maybe different players/bigger package 

[Hubs]

3 minutes ago, Second Base said:

Wilson Contreras, identified as a primary trade target for the Angels on an annual basis. Queue the next three pages on trade proposals that we totally think would work. 

AngelsWin Challenge: Construct a trade proposal for Contreras, using only Angels prospects and players that do not have the letter A in their first order last name.

Go!

No Adams or Adell? Or no players that have an a in their names (impossible — cuz Jackson, Paris, Sandoval all have A’s lol)

If Sandoval, Jackson, Thaiss, and Knowles would do it I’m all in. 

Just now, angelsnationtalk said:

Something along these lines I would do. Maybe different players/bigger package 

Take out the $7 M cash and substitute Barria for Sandoval and I’d do it.

[Hubs]

Just now, Hubs said:

No Adams or Adell? Or no players that have an a in their names (impossible — cuz Jackson, Paris, Sandoval all have A’s lol)

If Sandoval, Jackson, Thaiss, and Knowles would do it I’m all in. 

Take out the $7 M cash and substitute Barria for Sandoval and I’d do it.

Obviously the first one was for Contreras alone.

[beatlesrule]

Angels

2:44

Are Perry Minasian's options for starting pitching help fading fast?

 

Steve Adams

2:46

Bauer, Sugano, Odorizzi, Tanaka, Kluber, Paxton all still unsigned. Reds SPs, Musgrove still out there in trades. Might as well ask the Cubs about Kyle Hendricks now, too. Angels still have options even if a couple notable possibilities are off the board.

[ukyah]

31 minutes ago, beatlesrule said:

Angels

2:44

Are Perry Minasian's options for starting pitching help fading fast?

 

Steve Adams

2:46

Bauer, Sugano, Odorizzi, Tanaka, Kluber, Paxton all still unsigned. Reds SPs, Musgrove still out there in trades. Might as well ask the Cubs about Kyle Hendricks now, too. Angels still have options even if a couple notable possibilities are off the board.

i don't know how kluber makes the list. is he even healthy?

[Lazorko Saves]

1 hour ago, angelsnationtalk said:

Something along these lines I would do. Maybe different players/bigger package 

[Angel Oracle]

Contreras for Sandoval, Vera, Holmes, and Thaiss?

Or, Contreras and Heyward’s salary (3 years/$65 million) for Holmes and Thaiss?   Heyward still plays a good RF.

Don’t want to trade Jackson, could be Rendon’s replacement when he needs to move to 1B in 3-4 years.

Or if Arte goes full ham, and it’s Hendricks, Contreras, and Heyward’s salary for say Canning, Sandoval, Vera, and Thaiss?  And then sign Tanaka and Bradley?  
Payroll jumps by about $65 million, still only $29 million over tax threshold ($11 million under the #9 pick dropping to #19).   Pujols after 2021 gets back $24 million, add say $8 million extra to re-sign Bundy if still pitching well, and subtract $21 million for Upton after 2022.  
That’s what, around $15 million under the 2023 threshold?     Might be hard to keep both Adell and Adams though in this scenario.

Do something about the pitching and stable catching for a change!

Edited December 29, 2020 by Angel Oracle

[mmc]

 

[bloodbrother]

Lunacy

[CanadianHalo]

Darvish deal looking even better now if that’s possible 

[Angelsfan1984]

Well...looks like he’s going to the Mets lol!

[southpaw]

I love how Jon Herman tries to negotiate for every free agent in the press. Just because Bauer asks for the moon doesn’t necessarily mean he will get it. If he does, good for him but doubt he will even come close to that in this economy. That is a ridiculous asking price, if it is even true. Think Rachel Luba leaked that info to get higher offers. He won’t get anywhere close to that. Just watch.  

Edited December 30, 2020 by southpaw

[Docwaukee]

14 minutes ago, mmc said:

 

Rachel Luba declined comment except to say 'Like totes!!!  OMG!!'

[Docwaukee]

I'm seeking a 10yr deal at 40m per.  I hope I get it.  

[ukyah]

16 minutes ago, mmc said:

 

if that is accurate i would quickly shift to the trade market and the tanaka/paxton/odorizzi FA market.

there is no way i would pay bauer that much money. no way.

[Junkballer]

16 minutes ago, mmc said:

 

[Docwaukee]

3 minutes ago, southpaw said:

I love how Jon Herman tries to negotiate for every free agent in the press. Just because Bauer asks for the moon doesn’t necessarily mean he will get it. If he does, good for him but doubt he will even come close to that in this economy. That is a ridiculous along price, if it is even true. Think Rachel Luba leaked that info to get higher offers. He won’t get anywhere close to that. Just watch.  

leaked?  

hey Jon, will you tweet this for me?  

sure Rachel.  no problem.  

[bloodbrother]

4 minutes ago, ukyah said:

if that is accurate i would quickly shift to the trade market and the tanaka/paxton/odorizzi FA market.

there is no way i would pay bauer that much money. no way.

This is what the Angels should do anyway IMO.

[Stradling]

 

[CanadianHalo]

 

[CanadianHalo]

Round 2...

[wopphil]

If true, that’s some crazy shit. You could sign Realmuto and Odorizzi, and trade for Musgrove, for a similar AAV.