The Official 2020-2021 Hot Stove Offseason Thread

[tdawg87]

14 minutes ago, Lou said:

Why did you post a picture of Michelle Obama?

[tdawg87]

Uh oh, @Hubs got offended.

[Docwaukee]

already starting  

mlb wants to delay the start of the season

mlbpa wants to play 162 games.  

here we go.  

[Docwaukee]

this off season is so super friggin boring so far.  

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[Second Base]

Key Middleton, the hardest throwing SJW in the world. Seriously though, I think he's going to be really good at some point in his career and hate the idea it might come in a Mariners uniform.

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[Warfarin]

 

This is rather good value.  We can likely find a pretty decent backup catcher for a similar price.

[Hubs]

14 hours ago, tdawg87 said:

Uh oh, @Hubs got offended.

It is offensive. I don’t like racist tropes on baseball message boards.

It’s not the political forum (which I stay away from.)

Stick to baseball. 

[BTH]

I was initially surprised at the relatively low amount Zunino got, but I looked at his numbers in 2019-2020, and they are ugly offensively.

[tdawg87]

23 minutes ago, Hubs said:

It is offensive. I don’t like racist tropes on baseball message boards.

It’s not the political forum (which I stay away from.)

Stick to baseball. 

Nothing political about what I said. 

Lighten up.

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[Second Base]

The price for even crappy pitching continues to climb.

[Docwaukee]

23 minutes ago, Second Base said:

The price for even crappy pitching continues to climb.

Compare him to Odorizzi.  Desclafani missed a year due to injury.  Odorizzi is a bit better, but there's not a huge difference.  They're almost exactly the same age.  

career 99 era+ for Disclafani

career 105 era+ for Odorizzi

[totdprods]

DeSclafani was one of the guys I was thinking we should target if we signed Bauer. Would’ve been a good value buy if Bauer ate up our money.

[SlappyUtilityMIF]

On 12/14/2020 at 11:33 AM, Angel Oracle said:

How much is it expected to take to sign Sugano or Arihara?

I was reading Sugano could be had for 10M per to start on a 4yr deal.

[Duren, Duren]

Don't underestimate the value of a solid lefty reliever. Important even just for one hitter at a key point in a game. Odorizzi flies under the radar somewhat, but he has experience and a decent resume. Just because he isn't a flame thrower doesn't mean he can't be effective. For one-year at one million he's worth the addition. 

The career of a reliever is harder to evaluate just by stats because one bad inning here or there magnifies the negatives. Consistency is important and he has shown that.

[Angels in 2030]

I'm actually coming around to the idea of trading for a SP (Gray/Musgrove/etc.) and signing either Odorizzi/Sagano.  Signing Bauer will not only cost a ton for a longtime, but lose our 2nd round pick.  While the former scenario will not.  So trading prospects for a SP is not so bad considering we keep that pick and basically gain a top guy back (vs Bauer signing).  Keep payroll flexibility too.  So long as the trade does not include Detmer, Rodriguez or Koch -- anyone else can go as far as i'm concerned.  

[greginpsca]

I am coming around to liking the idea of signing Sugano. The price should be within the teams reach. And then sign another similar priced starter not named Paxson.{ Not a Paxson fan, as it seems he has spent more time on the injured list than on an active roster}.  This way we don't lose a draft pick. We don't gut the farm in a trade. And we are able to fill out the roster in a timely fashion, instead of waiting for the Attention Whore Bauer to quit playing his games in deciding where he wants to play, which could be another 6 weeks. By then the alternatives will be signed. 

[Hubs]

58 minutes ago, Fourts said:

I'm actually coming around to the idea of trading for a SP (Gray/Musgrove/etc.) and signing either Odorizzi/Sagano.  Signing Bauer will not only cost a ton for a longtime, but lose our 2nd round pick.  While the former scenario will not.  So trading prospects for a SP is not so bad considering we keep that pick and basically gain a top guy back (vs Bauer signing).  Keep payroll flexibility too.  So long as the trade does not include Detmer, Rodriguez or Koch -- anyone else can go as far as i'm concerned.  

No second round pick but likely two of the last three firsts or seconds in Adell, Marsh, Adams and Paris, Detmers, or Jackson.

Not gonna get starting pitching like Gray for spare parts.

[Docwaukee]

[Make Angels Great Again]

Worst offseason ever.