The Official 2020-2021 Hot Stove Offseason Thread

[jsnpritchett]

Just now, tdawg87 said:

That's idiotic.

@jsnpritchett you're better than that.

(Side note: there's apparently a Schitt's Creek GIF for every occasion...)

[Pancake Bear]

My personal order of who I trust most of the local Angels beat reporters:

- Fletch: Mainly because he's been around longer than the others. He seems more likely to have connections the others might not.

- Maria: Her and Rhett are nearly tied, but she seems to be a little more likely to have info others don't. The difference is minimal. Given how tight the Angels run their ship, no one seems to have that much info.

- Rhett: See above.

- Fabian: He's a kid. Doesn't seem overly insightful. His Q&A's particularly tend to be more unhelpful that not - like when he insisted right before Trout signed his extension that Trout was almost certainly going to free agency because he had no incentive to re-sign before then. I've yet to see any signs of improvement. 

[angelsnationtalk]

18 minutes ago, Pancake Bear said:

My personal order of who I trust most of the local Angels beat reporters:

- Fletch: Mainly because he's been around longer than the others. He seems more likely to have connections the others might not.

- Maria: Her and Rhett are nearly tied, but she seems to be a little more likely to have info others don't. The difference is minimal. Given how tight the Angels run their ship, no one seems to have that much info.

- Rhett: See above.

- Fabian: He's a kid. Doesn't seem overly insightful. His Q&A's particularly tend to be more unhelpful that not - like when he insisted right before Trout signed his extension that Trout was almost certainly going to free agency because he had no incentive to re-sign before then. I've yet to see any signs of improvement. 

Honestly I find people who aren't beat writers for the actual team to be more insightful. It's not a bad thing to the writers, but they seem to cover the news when it happens rather than go digging for rumors/answers. 

That's why I find it really suspicious that only one writer has a saucy rumor that the Angels are out on Bauer when they usually report the same exact thing at the same exact time. Again, not knocking on them, but it's just what i've seen.

[mmc]

 

[Erstad Grit]

2 minutes ago, mmc said:

 

Is it Nolan and Story or is it Nolan and the article is the story?

[Pancake Bear]

54 minutes ago, angelsnationtalk said:

Honestly I find people who aren't beat writers for the actual team to be more insightful. It's not a bad thing to the writers, but they seem to cover the news when it happens rather than go digging for rumors/answers. 

That's why I find it really suspicious that only one writer has a saucy rumor that the Angels are out on Bauer when they usually report the same exact thing at the same exact time. Again, not knocking on them, but it's just what i've seen.

It varies, but yeah, that can often be the case. 

[tdawg87]

I mean it's a safe position to be in. I'd say the Angels are unlikely to sign Bauer anyway, and if they don't people will immediately assume she knew something. 

I don't buy it. Unless something has drastically changed with the organization or someone hired by Minasian leaked this info (which would be hilariously stupid btw), I don't think she knows more than anyone else. 

[wopphil]

12 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

I mean it's a safe position to be in. I'd say the Angels are unlikely to sign Bauer anyway, and if they don't people will immediately assume she knew something. 

I don't buy it. Unless something has drastically changed with the organization or someone hired by Minasian leaked this info (which would be hilariously stupid btw), I don't think she knows more than anyone else. 

I agree. I also don’t buy that we aren’t in on Bauer. If we weren’t, other moves would have been made by now.

[ScottT]

I buy that she knows more than I do about most things like this.

[Chuck]

2 hours ago, jsnpritchett said:

Jesus Christ, people, lighten up.  I also bet if the name on the byline was Mario Torres instead of Maria, you guys wouldn't be crucifying the writer like you are. 

You are the problem with America these days. What a shit post.

[Chuck]

2 hours ago, Stradling said:

It means we hated the article and the opinion because we are sexist.

This. Which is a load of shit.

[jsnpritchett]

13 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

You are the problem with America these days. What a shit post.

LOL.

Anyway, I just find the reaction to her story completely overblown and over-the-top. It's amusing to me.  Accusing her of making stuff up, not actually having real sources, etc.  It's just bizarre.

[Chuck]

2 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

LOL.

Anyway, I just find the reaction to her story completely overblown and over-the-top. It's amusing to me.  Accusing her of making stuff up, not actually having real sources, etc.  It's just bizarre.

It has ZERO to do with her gender. End of story.

[tdawg87]

16 minutes ago, ScottT said:

I buy that she knows more than I do about most things like this.

True, and it's probably true of everyone else here besides Fletcher. But Jeff himself has said while he knows more about these things than people here do because it's literally his job, he doesn't really have "insider" info like this. 

So again, it comes down to "leaked" info, hence the anonymity. That's why I am saying she's full of shit. 

Btw Bauer still hasn't signed anywhere.

[Bronson]

52 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

LOL.

Anyway, I just find the reaction to her story completely overblown and over-the-top. It's amusing to me.  Accusing her of making stuff up, not actually having real sources, etc.  It's just bizarre.

[Inside Pitch]

8 hours ago, Second Base said:

Yes but that doesn't make for a good story. 

"The Angels may not be in on Trevor Bauer, but tomorrow, they may also be the favorites to sign him. I don't know."

And that's the problem with what Maria is doing. It's clickbait. The likelihood of her having an inside source with Bauer or the New Angels front office is slim to none. Closer to none. You have just as many sources as she does, Chuck. But for her to peddle her opinions as validated due to expertise when it's anything but expert comparatively speaking in regards to Fletcher, Bollinger or anyone else.... it's inauthentic. It's crap. 

100% why I haven't read it..... Well, that and Bauer fatigue...

[tdawg87]

What if the FO did leak this as an effort to make it seem like they're out to other teams, when in fact they're not?

Minasian:

 

[Inside Pitch]

FWIW....   

I think she saw the reaction her tweets got the day or two before and decided to write a story to generate views as a result.  Im not saying she made anything up or her opinions arent based on something but given the amount of attention those tweets got, a follow up story full of bombastic comments was a lock to generate traffic.

At the end of the day, she's got a job to do.

[Inside Pitch]

6 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

What if the FO did leak this as an effort to make it seem like they're out to other teams, when in fact they're not?

Minasian:

 

[Stradling]

Suck it @mmc

[Jay]

7 hours ago, jsnpritchett said:

LOL.

Anyway, I just find the reaction to her story completely overblown and over-the-top. It's amusing to me.  Accusing her of making stuff up, not actually having real sources, etc.  It's just bizarre.

Sexism aside, this is a small example of the state of the media in this country today.

People don't trust them.

[Stradling]

 

[CanadianHalo]

Bauer and Rachel have most likely seen the Torres article and neither of them has come out and said it’s not true.

So far throughout his free agency they’ve responded to a few people who have made false claims and that includes random Twitter people.

 

[CanadianHalo]

Even after signing Kurt Suzuki to a one-year deal, the Los Angeles Angels have explored additional upgrades at catcher. Among the players of interest include the Chicago Cubs’ Willson Contreras and Boston Red Sox’s Christian Vasquez, according to league sources.

[GoodTimesGoneBad]

Great deal for the Cubs. Looks like they are going to give him the chance to play every day instead of platooning him. Don’t think the halos would have done this so it makes sense for Joc. Pillar here we come.