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Victor Rojas guarantees a victory. Winner!

Looks like we got our starting 1B for next season.  It has been a long time since we've developed a power hitting prospect that has translated solid minor league results at the big league level. 

The other take away from tonight is maybe Barria really can be the Angels #5 starter in 2021. I know it's only 3 starts but he has looked great. If they can add a top of the rotation guy like Bau

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The other take away from tonight is maybe Barria really can be the Angels #5 starter in 2021. I know it's only 3 starts but he has looked great.

If they can add a top of the rotation guy like Bauer to Bundy/Heaney/Canning/Barria then they will compete.

And if Barria can be relied upon to be the #5 then the Angels may need to add only one SP and can bring back Simba. An infield of Rendon, Simba, Fletcher, Pujols/Walsh with an outfield of Trout, Upton and Adell with that starting rotation is a playoff team.

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3 hours ago, stormngt said:

This is the real reason why we are missing the playoffs.

 

4 minutes ago, Game 6 said:

The other take away from tonight is maybe Barria really can be the Angels #5 starter in 2021. I know it's only 3 starts but he has looked great.

If they can add a top of the rotation guy like Bauer to Bundy/Heaney/Canning/Barria then they will compete.

I agree 

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58 minutes ago, Game 6 said:

The other take away from tonight is maybe Barria really can be the Angels #5 starter in 2021. I know it's only 3 starts but he has looked great.

If they can add a top of the rotation guy like Bauer to Bundy/Heaney/Canning/Barria then they will compete.

And if Barria can be relied upon to be the #5 then the Angels may need to add only one SP and can bring back Simba. An infield of Rendon, Simba, Fletcher, Pujols/Walsh with an outfield of Trout, Upton and Adell with that starting rotation is a playoff team.

Remember he was one of the better if not best starter in 2018.  Its been more than three games.

I think his struggles last year was a combination of Eppler and the Coaching Staff F*** with his head and him out of shape. 

I hope that is the case.  If he finishes strong he should be guaranteed a rotation spot.   

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1 minute ago, stormngt said:

Remember he was one of the better if not best starter in 2018.  Its been more than three games.

I think his struggles last year was a combination of Eppler and the Coaching Staff F*** with his head and him out of shape. 

I hope that is the case.  If he finishes strong he should be guaranteed a rotation spot.   

I really think Barria and the Doug White/Ausmus plan did not jive. He was terrible when used with an opener and they kept using one with him. 

Barria has looked good. He doesn’t need to be an ace. He needs to do exactly what he’s done so far this year, which is what he did in ‘18. 5-6 IP, 2-4 ER. He won’t shut you out, he’ll get clobbered sometimes, but he should be good for 180 IP and a 4.00 - 4.50 ERA by end of year.  Which would be fantastic compared to our pitching staffs back-of-rotation guys over the last near-decade. 

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9 minutes ago, stormngt said:

Remember he was one of the better if not best starter in 2018.  Its been more than three games.

I think his struggles last year was a combination of Eppler and the Coaching Staff F*** with his head and him out of shape. 

I hope that is the case.  If he finishes strong he should be guaranteed a rotation spot.   

Last year Barria was fat. It wasn’t Eppler, it was the buffet table.

This year he looks like he lost 30 pounds  Good for him.

 

  

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10 hours ago, Game 6 said:

Last year Barria was fat. It wasn’t Eppler, it was the buffet table.

This year he looks like he lost 30 pounds  Good for him.

 

  

I mentioned he was out of shape. However, however being one of the teams best pitcher in 2018 and in spring training 2019

1. He was demoted for Stratton!

2.  When he was brought up he was used as a reliever. 

3.  They showed no confidence in him by using a "starter".

White, Assmus, and Eppler F'd with the guys head.  

 

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12 hours ago, ukyah said:

quick unofficial poll question

was anybody else aware this even exists?

alternate poll:

are gameday threads dead because the angels have sucked for years or are you hoarding rep?

 

It doesn’t exist

game day threads are dead because the team isn’t interesting.  Oh and because Upton is playing well.  Ausmus and Scioscia are gone despite Maddon being very similar.  As for hoarding street cred or whatever that dude is trying to say, yea that doesn’t exist. 

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2 hours ago, stormngt said:

I mentioned he was out of shape. However, however being one of the teams best pitcher in 2018 and in spring training 2019

1. He was demoted for Stratton!

2.  When he was brought up he was used as a reliever. 

3.  They showed no confidence in him by using a "starter".

White, Assmus, and Eppler F'd with the guys head.  

 

I agree. He was fat.

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@stormngt you bring up Stratton way too much and you tend to want to baby Barria.  Stratton wasn’t brought here to replace Barria he was here for an injured Heaney, which happened the week the season started.  Stratton started 5 games for us.  Meantime Barria had about a 10 ERA in AAA.  Dude has had success but his k rate and walk rate are both below average and they weren’t great in 18.  

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2 minutes ago, Stradling said:

@stormngt you bring up Stratton way too much and you tend to want to baby Barria.  Stratton wasn’t brought here to replace Barria he was here for an injured Heaney, which happened the week the season started.  Stratton started 5 games for us.  Meantime Barria had about a 10 ERA in AAA.  Dude has had success but his k rate and walk rate are both below average and they weren’t great in 18.  

No I do not bring it up too often.  Barrira, despite pitching well in preseason and pitching well in 2018, was demoted to AAA.

Why?  

Stratton was traded March 26 as a starter.  Since Stratton was in the rotation at the start of the year and Barria wasn't on the team.  Thus Stratton replaced Barria!

I know he didn't pitch well in 2019.  That is why I didnt complain about Barria not being in the rotation in 2020.

However Barria pitched well in 2018.  You seem to want to ignore the fact that 2019 wasn't his first season.  Barria earned a starting spot.  The screwed him.  They screwed with his head and did not trust him to start a game.  

Yes Barria pitched poorly in 2019.  However there is no doubt in my mind the fucked with the kids head.  

Barria  split as a starter has a 4.05 ERA.

Are there any other starters over the last three years with a better ERA?

 

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3 minutes ago, stormngt said:

No I do not bring it up too often.  Barrira, despite pitching well in preseason and pitching well in 2018, was demoted to AAA.

Why?  

Stratton was traded March 26 as a starter.  Since Stratton was in the rotation at the start of the year and Barria wasn't on the team.  Thus Stratton replaced Barria!

I know he didn't pitch well in 2019.  That is why I didnt complain about Barria not being in the rotation in 2020.

However Barria pitched well in 2018.  You seem to want to ignore the fact that 2019 wasn't his first season.  Barria earned a starting spot.  The screwed him.  They screwed with his head and did not trust him to start a game.  

Yes Barria pitched poorly in 2019.  However there is no doubt in my mind the fucked with the kids head.  

Barria  split as a starter has a 4.05 ERA.

Are there any other starters over the last three years with a better ERA?

 

In 2019 he was fat.

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5 minutes ago, stormngt said:

No I do not bring it up too often.  Barrira, despite pitching well in preseason and pitching well in 2018, was demoted to AAA.

Why?  

Stratton was traded March 26 as a starter.  Since Stratton was in the rotation at the start of the year and Barria wasn't on the team.  Thus Stratton replaced Barria!

I know he didn't pitch well in 2019.  That is why I didnt complain about Barria not being in the rotation in 2020.

However Barria pitched well in 2018.  You seem to want to ignore the fact that 2019 wasn't his first season.  Barria earned a starting spot.  The screwed him.  They screwed with his head and did not trust him to start a game.  

Yes Barria pitched poorly in 2019.  However there is no doubt in my mind the fucked with the kids head.  

Barria  split as a starter has a 4.05 ERA.

Are there any other starters over the last three years with a better ERA?

 

Why?  Because Barria had minor league options and Stratton didn’t.  Stratton replaced Heaney.  The team wanted more depth.  

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19 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Why?  Because Barria had minor league options and Stratton didn’t.  Stratton replaced Heaney.  The team wanted more depth.  

If Stratton was replacing Heaney thete should have been a spot in the rotation for Barria.  You argument has no logic to it.

Whatever moves the front office had it screwed with Barria's head.

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Just now, stormngt said:

If Stratton was replacing Heaney thete should have been a spot in the rotation for Barria.  You argument has no logic to it.

Whatever moves the front office had it screwed with Barria's head.

If it screwed with his head then he will fail as a pitcher.  And of course my argument has logic because it’s exactly what happened. 

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4 minutes ago, Stradling said:

If it screwed with his head then he will fail as a pitcher.  And of course my argument has logic because it’s exactly what 

Why was it necessary to place Barria in Salt Lake if Stratton didnt take his spot.  If Stratton had taken Heaneys spot then both Stratton and Barria would be in the starting rotation.  

The Angel's started pitching to start 2019:

Cahill, Harvey, Pena, Skaggs, Stratton. 

Barria should have been starting in place of Stratton.  They fucked with the kids head!

Now you can continue to debate me despite not being able to change my mind or you cam enjoy today's game.

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1 minute ago, stormngt said:

Why was it necessary to place Barria in Salt Lake if Stratton didnt take his spot.  If Stratton had taken Heaneys spot then both Stratton and Barria would be in the starting rotation.  

The Angel's started pitching to start 2019:

Cahill, Harvey, Pena, Skaggs, Stratton. 

Barria should have been starting in place of Stratton.  They fucked with the kids head!

Now you can continue to debate me despite not being able to change my mind or you cam enjoy today's game.

Which guy had minor league options?  Was it Harvey, Cahill, Pena, Skaggs, Stratton or Barria?  
Hint: The guy that got sent down is the answer. 

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37 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Which guy had minor league options?  Was it Harvey, Cahill, Pena, Skaggs, Stratton or Barria?  
Hint: The guy that got sent down is then

I guess you dont want to enjoy today's game.

Stratton was an F'n disaster no matter how you try to spin it.  Maybe if they used him as a reliever it may have turned out better.

Barria was screwed over by Eppler, White, and Assmus no matter how you want to spin it!

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1 hour ago, Game 6 said:

In 2019 he was fat.

It's not trolling to agree with professional journalists and broadcasters.

BARRIA WAS FAT IN 2019.

FACT.

It is silly to continue your fanboy love for 2019 Barria.

the great news is he has laid off the drive through and is in shape and pitching well in 2020.

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5 minutes ago, stormngt said:

I guess you dont want to enjoy today's game.

Stratton was an F'n disaster no matter how you try to spin it.  Maybe if they used him as a reliever it may have turned out better.

Barria was screwed over by Eppler, White, and Assmus no matter how you want to spin it!

Ok so he’s a victim and I’m sure that bodes well for his success as an MLB pitcher.   He faces adversity goes to the minors, apparently pouts his way to performing worse than Stratton and you choose to defend him.  Go for it.   Oh and I can enjoy baseball and discuss things simultaneously.  

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8 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Ok so he’s a victim and I’m sure that bodes well for his success as an MLB pitcher.   He faces adversity goes to the minors, apparently pouts his way to performing worse than Stratton and you choose to defend him.  Go for it.   Oh and I can enjoy baseball and discuss things simultaneously.  

Under Scioscia

23 games 3.41 ERA ERA + 123

Under Assmus 

18 games 6.33 ERA ERA+ 72

Under Madden

3.36 ERA. ERA+ 138

I think his prospects of success as a major league pitcher is fairly bright.   So long as Assmus and White doesnt fuck with his head!

Go enjoy the game.  Upton is up as the go ahead run in 6th inning.

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13 minutes ago, stormngt said:

Under Scioscia

23 games 3.41 ERA ERA + 123

Under Assmus 

18 games 6.33 ERA ERA+ 72

Under Madden

3.36 ERA. ERA+ 138

I think his prospects of success as a major league pitcher is fairly bright.   So long as Assmus and White doesnt fuck with his head!

Go enjoy the game.  Upton is up as the go ahead run in 6th inning.

Yeh, but in 2019 he was fat...

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