So Trout is the AL MVP, right?

[kevinb]

3 hours ago, Stradling said:

Adell looked much more comfortable in CF than he has in RF.  Adell on a different team is probably a CFer. 

Is it time to think about moving Trout to left field in the next year or two? 

[Stradling]

13 minutes ago, Kevinb said:

Is it time to think about moving Trout to left field in the next year or two? 

Yes 

[kevinb]

18 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Yes 

Who would be expected to take that spot Marsh or Adell depending if both obviously hit in the big leagues

[Stradling]

11 minutes ago, Kevinb said:

Who would be expected to take that spot Marsh or Adell depending if both obviously hit in the big leagues

Probably Marsh.  My opinion is if Adell can handle CF, I’d put him there, Marsh in RF and Trout in LF. 

[Jeff Fletcher]

1 hour ago, Kevinb said:

Who would be expected to take that spot Marsh or Adell depending if both obviously hit in the big leagues

Marsh is a much better OF defensively. If both Adell and Marsh are in the same OF, and one of them has to play CF, I assume it would be Marsh. 

[kevinb]

1 minute ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

Marsh is a much better OF defensively. If both Adell and Marsh are in the same OF, and one of them has to play CF, I assume it would be Marsh. 

Thanks for the heads up

[JustATroutFan]

1. Bieber 2. Trout 3. Rendon 

Defensive WAR on Baseball Reference is a garbage stat. You can't tell me that Trout has cost the Angels 11 runs or whatever that crap is this season, right? 

[ScottT]

I don't understand the idea that teammates cancel each other out.  Especially these days where being on a winning team hasn't mattered as much.

[Stradling]

13 minutes ago, ScottT said:

I don't understand the idea that teammates cancel each other out.  Especially these days where being on a winning team hasn't mattered as much.

They split votes 

[JustATroutFan]

Right now, it's Bieber who would win the AL MVP for me. Trout is at second, Rendon is at third, and Abreu is at fourth. 

[m0nkey]

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

They split votes 

Assuming they split votes, one gets first, the other gets second right?  Then the guy who's supposed to be the beneficiary gets a third place vote, still less than first and second.  Isn't he still behind?

[Revad]

On 9/12/2020 at 10:47 AM, Jeff Fletcher said:

I haven’t looked yet. It’s too early. 

Not on the east coast

[Jeff Fletcher]

2 hours ago, Stradling said:

They split votes 

I don’t get it either. 
 

My spreadsheet has just player names. No teams. 
 

I don’t say “ok, one from this team, one from this team.” I just pull the names off the individual stat leaderboards. 

[ScottT]

2 hours ago, Stradling said:

They split votes 

How does that work?

[ScottT]

Someone on MLB Network this morning said Trout and Rendon would cancel each other out.  Bizarre.  Maybe way back when voters were more likely to be homers... and guys basically had to be on winning teams.  And maybe they didn't vote for as many?  But now?  It makes no sense.

This year is interesting.  You have guys competing for these awards that had zero common opponents.  

[AngelsLakersFan]

I would say there are still a majority number of homer sports writers out there. If there is a decent argument to be made for the home town player usually the local writer with the vote will put him first even if it's debatable. It's not so common anymore but virtually every winning team would have a representative high up on the MVP votes list, and this often came down to the narrative of who sportswriters thought was singularly most responsible for that team's success. When the answer to that question wasn't clear you would see vote splitting. Obviously that won't be an issue for the Angels this year. I could see the opposite effect though, where the team is so bad writers have a hard time placing Trout and Rendon so high.

[AngelsLakersFan]

21 hours ago, ScottT said:

Someone on MLB Network this morning said Trout and Rendon would cancel each other out.  Bizarre.  Maybe way back when voters were more likely to be homers... and guys basically had to be on winning teams.  And maybe they didn't vote for as many?  But now?  It makes no sense.

This year is interesting.  You have guys competing for these awards that had zero common opponents.  

I don't know why they couldn't have given the West it's own wild card. Records are not comparable between divisions, so the wild card selections are almost random and arbitrary in nature.

[ScottT]

Fangraphs WAR

Rendon 2.5

Jose Ramirez 2.5

Abreu 2.4

Trout 2.4

Tim Anderson 2.3

LeMahieu 2.2

Lowe 2.0

Cruz 2.0

[ScottT]

Baseball Reference WAR

1.LeMahieu • NYY2.7

2.Abreu • CHW2.7

3.Verdugo • BOS2.1

4.Anderson • CHW2.1

5.Robert • CHW2.0

6.Lowe • TBR1.9

7.Lewis • SEA1.8

Rendon • LAA1.8

Candelario • DET1.8

10.Buxton • MIN1.8

[ScottT]

It's a crazy race. Trout needs a big last nine games to win. 

[Docwaukee]

LeMahieu will probably win if he keeps that avg above .370.  And he's in NY.  

[tdawg87]

Trout needs to go on a tear. Otherwise I see him 2nd or 3rd.

[m0nkey]

On 9/8/2020 at 3:45 PM, m0nkey said:

If the season ended today, they’d probably give it to Bieber. 

If the season endee today, they'd probably give it to Jose Ramirez

[Angel Oracle]

On 9/18/2020 at 1:05 PM, tdawg87 said:

Trout needs to go on a tear. Otherwise I see him 2nd or 3rd.

Or even top 5, with the slump over the past 11 games (.200 BA, 0 HRs, 4 rbis) that dropped his BA about 25 pts and OPS about 80 pts.

Edited September 25, 2020 by Angel Oracle

[ukyah]

they're not giving trout the mvp this year. the only way a player on a continually losing team is going to win it is when he's running away with it.