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Your ideal lineup/batting order for 2020?


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Fletcher- 2nd

Trout-CF

Ohtani- DH 

Rendon- 3rd

Upton- LF

Castro- C

Albert- 1b

Simmons- SS

Adell- RF

 

If LaStella picked up a first baseman’s glove then I would put him at first over Albert.  I bat Ohtani between Trout and Rendon because of the 3 batter rule for bullpen guys, which to me outweighs the drop off between Ohtani and Rendon, which won’t be much.  

 

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4 or 5 days a week, when Ohtani isn't starting at SP or on his recovery day.

2B Fletcher/LaStella

CF Trout

3B Rendon

DH Ohtani

LF Upton

SS Simmons

1B Pujols/Thaiss

C Castro/Stassi

RF Goodwin/Adell/Walsh/Ward

 

When Ohtani is a SP or recovery day:

UTIL Fletcher

CF/DH Trout

3B/DH Rendon

LF/DH Upton

1B Pujols/Thaiss

SS Simmons

2B LaStella

C Castro/Stassi

RF/CF/LF Goodwin/Adell

 

 

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14 hours ago, Hubs said:

4 or 5 days a week, when Ohtani isn't starting at SP or on his recovery day.

2B Fletcher/LaStella

CF Trout

3B Rendon

DH Ohtani

LF Upton

SS Simmons

1B Pujols/Thaiss

C Castro/Stassi

RF Goodwin/Adell/Walsh/Ward

 

When Ohtani is a SP or recovery day:

UTIL Fletcher

CF/DH Trout

3B/DH Rendon

LF/DH Upton

1B Pujols/Thaiss

SS Simmons

2B LaStella

C Castro/Stassi

RF/CF/LF Goodwin/Adell

 

 

If he is in lineup Albert 7th or lower is way to go

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i agree with most here that Trout needs to bat 2nd.  Get that trout/Ohtani/Rendon threesome up as soon as possible. Wow, i've forgotten what a great hitter Rendon is and the excitement of adding him to the lineup.  If Upton were to have a bounce back year, even just a bit, daaaaang.  Sure the P is an issue, but at least the games will be exciting.

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17 hours ago, Stradling said:

Fletcher- 2nd

Trout-CF

Ohtani- DH 

Rendon- 3rd

Upton- LF

Castro- C

Albert- 1b

Simmons- SS

Adell- RF

 

If LaStella picked up a first baseman’s glove then I would put him at first over Albert.  I bat Ohtani between Trout and Rendon because of the 3 batter rule for bullpen guys, which to me outweighs the drop off between Ohtani and Rendon, which won’t be much.  

 

I like this line up also Stradling, not just because the 3 batter rule you cited, but the Trout/Ohtani/Rendon hitters coming up with a right/left/right handed line up also.  Throw in LaStella also over Albert and you have another lefty bat in there, which can limit the shifting our opponents had when we had the “pull happy” Calhoun and Albert in there.

it opens up more options of hit and run and limits the defensive strategy.  Several other line ups in this thread are also very good.  Can’t wait to see it in action.

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LaStella is not going to play 1st. He's played a total of 5.1 Innings in his career as a 1B.

He hit .295/.346/.486 last year in his first year in Anaheim, and the ball was juiced, so he hit 16 HR, after having just 10 in his career prior to that point.

Mat Thaiss or Jared Walsh will get the lefty starts at 1B this season. They may not hit quite to those numbers (over 80 games), but they will be the guy there. Pujols will get majority of the starts, maybe 35 to Thaiss/Walsh's 25.

Also depends on who starts in RF, as I think Walsh could see some time there.

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Jose Rojas also could be a lefty off the bench.

La Stella will not play 1st.

Also, with all of the lefty bench options, I think Ward could see some time in the lineup, as a righty off the bench.

With 26 men, and a 13 man lineup 12 man pitching staff (not incl Ohtani), you'd have Trout, Rendon, Pujols, Fletcher, Simmons, and Upton as righty hitters, plus Castro and Goodwin as lefty hitters.

Then your bench is likely LaStella, Thaiss from the left side, Stassi from the right side, and Rengifo as a switch hitter. Then who fits as the last man? Another lefty or a righty? Goodwin also isn't guaranteed the job, and he could be on the bench, with Adell as the starter. Rengifo and Thaiss also have options and could be up and down.

At 30 men, you likely carry two more pitchers to a 16 man staff, and two more hitters. That's likely to be an OF and an INF, though I could see a 3rd C, and just an OF.

At 28, you likely drop a pitcher and a hitter, but maybe two pitchers.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Hubs said:

LaStella is not going to play 1st. He's played a total of 5.1 Innings in his career as a 1B.

He hit .295/.346/.486 last year in his first year in Anaheim, and the ball was juiced, so he hit 16 HR, after having just 10 in his career prior to that point.

Mat Thaiss or Jared Walsh will get the lefty starts at 1B this season. They may not hit quite to those numbers (over 80 games), but they will be the guy there. Pujols will get majority of the starts, maybe 35 to Thaiss/Walsh's 25.

Also depends on who starts in RF, as I think Walsh could see some time there.

I agree

 

 

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Fletcher- 2b; Trout cf; Rendon 3b; Ohtani dh; Upton lf; Simmons ss; Pujols 1b; Castro/Stassi c; Adell/Goodwin rf.

When Ohtani not DHing:

Fletcher- 2b/of; LaStella dh/2b/1b; Trout cf; Rendon 3b; Upton lf/dh; Simmons ss; Pujols 1b/dh; Castro/Stassi c; Adell/Goodwin rf.

Ease Adell in, as the #9 hitter and utilize his speed with Fletcher on deck.

 

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22 hours ago, Stradling said:

Fletcher- 2nd

Trout-CF

Ohtani- DH 

Rendon- 3rd

Upton- LF

Castro- C

Albert- 1b

Simmons- SS

Adell- RF

 

If LaStella picked up a first baseman’s glove then I would put him at first over Albert.  I bat Ohtani between Trout and Rendon because of the 3 batter rule for bullpen guys, which to me outweighs the drop off between Ohtani and Rendon, which won’t be much.  

 

LaStella not playing 1B

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2 hours ago, Hubs said:

Jose Rojas also could be a lefty off the bench.

La Stella will not play 1st.

Also, with all of the lefty bench options, I think Ward could see some time in the lineup, as a righty off the bench.

With 26 men, and a 13 man lineup 12 man pitching staff (not incl Ohtani), you'd have Trout, Rendon, Pujols, Fletcher, Simmons, and Upton as righty hitters, plus Castro and Goodwin as lefty hitters.

Then your bench is likely LaStella, Thaiss from the left side, Stassi from the right side, and Rengifo as a switch hitter. Then who fits as the last man? Another lefty or a righty? Goodwin also isn't guaranteed the job, and he could be on the bench, with Adell as the starter. Rengifo and Thaiss also have options and could be up and down.

At 30 men, you likely carry two more pitchers to a 16 man staff, and two more hitters. That's likely to be an OF and an INF, though I could see a 3rd C, and just an OF.

At 28, you likely drop a pitcher and a hitter, but maybe two pitchers.

 

 

Joe Maddon has said LaStella will get some looks at 1B

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I am sure that we all agree that Albert probably will get 30-35 games at 1st base.

I am sure that we all agree that Ohtani is the primary DH, but likely gets a max of 40 games as DH.

So that leaves 20 games at DH and lets say 30 at 1st. Albert plays in 2/3 of the games, so I'm giving him 10 of the DH starts, the rest will likely go to Upton, Trout, and Rendon.

That leaves 30 games at 1st.

La Stella is not going to play 1/2 the time at 1st.

Thaiss should be the logical choice, but Rojas and Walsh and Ward all have 1st base experience. The first three are left handed hitters.

The vast majority of 1st base time will go to Pujols, then one of the four names above. Then maybe LaStella gets 2-3 starts there.

I think any of the three could hit similarly to LaStella's career numbers, and they all could be capable of hitting to an .800 OPS too.

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With/Ohtani

La Stella 2nd

Trout

Ohtani

Rendon

Upton

Pujols

Goodwin/Fletch/ adell

Castro

Simmons

I might switch Fletch (when he's playing) with La Stella to create more balance at the bottom. Overall this is a pretty solid 1-9

W/o Ohtani

Fletch Rf

Trout Cf

La Stella 2nd

Rendon 3rd

Upton Lf

Pujols dh

Catro C

Simmons SS

Thasis/Walsh  1st

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42 minutes ago, Vlad27Trout27 said:

With/Ohtani

La Stella 2nd

Trout

Ohtani

Rendon

Upton

Pujols

Goodwin/Fletch/ adell

Castro

Simmons

I might switch Fletch (when he's playing) with La Stella to create more balance at the bottom. Overall this is a pretty solid 1-9

W/o Ohtani

Fletch Rf

Trout Cf

La Stella 2nd

Rendon 3rd

Upton Lf

Pujols dh

Catro C

Simmons SS

Thasis/Walsh  1st

No way I bat La Stella 3rd. I’m also completely against splitting up Trout and Rendon. They hit well against both Lefty’s and Righties so there really isn’t no reason why they shouldn’t be a 1-2 punch. 

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I agree with the not splitting up Trout and Rendon. Ohtani hits in 2/3 of the games, then in those games it’s likely it goes 2/3/4/5 Trout/Rendon/Ohtani/Upton. RRLR. When Pujols plays he’ll hit 6th in this scenario. 

In the 1/3 of games Ohtani doesn’t hit, I’d expect the Angels to try to add a lefty bat, and Thaiss and Walsh are the likely two. I’d expect them to hit 6th with Pujols hitting 5th and Upton to slide to the 4 spot. I don’t expect them to slot into the #5 spot as a lefty unless they are mashing the ball and then that alters things. 

Castro could also move up if he’s hitting as a lefty hitting catcher with power and it’s not like we’ve seen that since Napoli.

LaStella or Goodwin will be playing a lot of the time if Fletcher Is playing the others position. So that’s a pretty balanced lineup L/R. There will usually be 6 Righties and 3 Lefties in the lineup. It could occasionally be 7/2 or 5/4.

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vs. LHP

2B David Fletcher

CF Mike Trout

1B Albert Pujols

3B Anthony Rendon

DH Shohei Ohtani

RF Brian Goodwin

LF Justin Upton

C Max Stassi

SS Andrelton Simmons

vs. RHP

2B David Fletcher

CF Mike Trout

3B Anthony Rendon

DH Shohei Ohtani

LF Justin Upton

1B Matt Thaiss

C Jason Castro

RF Brian Goodwin

SS Andrelton Simmons

 

Something along those lines....

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