Down to the wire

[Angels 1961]

Latest proposal is 72 game schedule, players must decide by Sunday night. I hope they get this done.

[Chuck]

They won't. Players are already mocking the proposal on Twitter. One said it was rejected before they hit the send button.

Again, while the owners are being tough in these negotiations the players are becoming assholes. 

They're already making a shit ton of $$$ to play a kids game, meanwhile the owners are standing to lose a ton of money here with no fans in attendance. 

Dumb! 

[tdawg87]

The players union is worse than the umpires union.

[Brandon]

Another reason baseball is going down the shitter. What a shame.

Only major sport that can't get it together.

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

I think no 2020 season hurts the players more than the owners.  Attendance took almost a decade to recover from the 94 strike and with the current CBA set to expire after next season with revenues down the owners will use that to their advantage when negotiating.  FA's are likely get less due to decreased revenues.  Like I said in the other thread I don't hold it against one side or the other it is what it is and at this point it isn't going to ruin my day.  Sure won't look good though if the NHL and NBA finish out their seasons while the NFL pulls there's off. 

[Angels 1961]

19 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

They won't. Players are already mocking the proposal on Twitter. One said it was rejected before they hit the send button.

Again, while the owners are being tough in these negotiations the players are becoming assholes. 

They're already making a shit ton of $$$ to play a kids game, meanwhile the owners are standing to lose a ton of money here with no fans in attendance. 

Dumb! 

Nobody comes to watch owners play. Artie a smart business man paid 160 mill for team now worth over 2 billion. I cannot feel sorry for the owners losing money. Owners making ton of money watching fans over pay food, beer, parking and tickets. Players have very short playing careers, screw the owners.

[Stradling]

They are rejecting it because it’s the same amount of money guaranteed as a 48 game full prorated season. 

[Blarg]

6 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

Nobody comes to watch owners play. Artie a smart business man paid 160 mill for team now worth over 2 billion. I cannot feel sorry for the owners losing money. Owners making ton of money watching fans over pay food, beer, parking and tickets. Players have very short playing careers, screw the owners.

The players very short careers eclipse the earnings of every front office staff member for their long careers. I feel no sympathy for any player that makes the MLB minimum and cries poverty. 

[Slegnaac]

But Manfred said he was 100% sure there is going to be a season.

[Angels in 2030]

They should reject it.  The problem the players are having though is that they need to SHUT-THE-F-UP.  Going into bunker mode and let your lawyers/PA do the talking behind the scenes.  Anyone commenting/etc. on social media and/or thru media is losing the fan war.  It's tone deaf in this economic environment.  How many owners are we hearing from complaining about the players and the terms of the negotiations?  They don't....and that's why they will ultimately come out the winners.  

If anything, they should just be saying we want to play and help the economy and country get back.  That's at most what they should say.  Anymore beyond is a losing proposition for them. 

[happybat4]

Maybe owners can sign a bunch of undrafted players for 20,000 to play. 

[Angels 1961]

1 hour ago, tdawg87 said:

The players union is worse than the umpires union.

Yeah owners do not need a union. They screwed players for 100 years. Without the union no free agents and Albert still be in St Louis is that what u want?

[Angels 1961]

1 hour ago, Blarg said:

The players very short careers eclipse the earnings of every front office staff member for their long careers. I feel no sympathy for any player that makes the MLB minimum and cries poverty. 

Players not crying poverty just want their share. Front office staff should have learned to hit a curve ball. I can do a front office staff job. 

[tdawg87]

5 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

Yeah owners do not need a union. They screwed players for 100 years. Without the union no free agents and Albert still be in St Louis is that what u want?

I mean....

[Lou]

5 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

Players not crying poverty just want their share. Front office staff should have learned to hit a curve ball. I can do a front office staff job. 

Then why aren't you working in a front office?

[Lou]

10 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

Yeah owners do not need a union. They screwed players for 100 years. Without the union no free agents and Albert still be in St Louis is that what u want?

[Lou]

52 minutes ago, happybat4 said:

Maybe owners can sign a bunch of undrafted players for 20,000 to play. 

100 

[tdawg87]

"I can do a front office staff job" has some potential.

[DMVol]

1 hour ago, Slegnaac said:

But Manfred said he was 100% sure there is going to be a season.

He meant that he was willing to impose a season, as he can do under the March agreement....likely coming Monday with the players rejecting this latest offer...unless the players come back with some serious discussion likely to lead to an agreement quickly....

[Biergott]

I'd take scab ball at this point.  For sure.  But I wish they could just find middle ground dammit.  I'd take a job right now for half my previous salary.  And both sides here blow their nose with less than that.  Frankly, it's pretty offensive the greed involved right now.  Spoiled brats on both sides.  Cry me a river.  Try living on unemployment, trying to support your family and pay a mortgage, while you apply for the same jobs over and over since nothing is open and hiring.  And you rich aholes are gonna cry about playing a game?  Neither side is coming off looking very good to me.

[beatlesrule]

[Lhalo]

Bring on the scabs. 

[Brandon]

Yeah, fuck these peeps on both sides.

I want to see a league where it's Brazzers vs. Naughty America.

[Erstad Grit]

To me common sense is pay players 100% of a pro-rated salary. They're already taking a pay-cut and they're risking their health with the virus. Owners can potentially sell the suites  or just eat it this year. 

[AngelsLakersFan]

4 hours ago, Chuckster70 said:

They won't. Players are already mocking the proposal on Twitter. One said it was rejected before they hit the send button.

Again, while the owners are being tough in these negotiations the players are becoming assholes. 

They're already making a shit ton of $$$ to play a kids game, meanwhile the owners are standing to lose a ton of money here with no fans in attendance. 

Dumb! 

Owners are not losing money, they just aren't making the same money they have been the last several years.

The players are under no obligation to take a pay cut, even though they already have agreed to take a roughly 50% reduction. The owners have threatened to impose a 50 game season because that is the number that locks in their television contracts. Every offer since has been for additional games at the same total pay. The only ground the owners have given is offered increasing amounts of pay for the postseason, which has come in exchange for the players agreeing to expanded playoffs.