Top 5 Angels RF of all-time list

[Brandon]

https://www.mlb.com/angels/news/angels-all-time-best-right-fielders

Dude has Salmon over Guererro

[St1ck]

No Orlando Palmeiro?

[Brandon]

2 minutes ago, st1ckboy said:

No Orlando Palmeiro?

I think Jeff DaVanon slightly edged him out

[m0nkey]

No world series hero Alex Ochoa?

[Chuck]

36 minutes ago, Brandon said:

https://www.mlb.com/angels/news/angels-all-time-best-right-fielders

Dude has Salmon over Guererro

Salmon had the longevity here so I can see it, but if I was picking I'd go with Guerrero slightly. 

Let's take a look at their best seasons while with the Angels because you can't use Vlad's best season when he was with the Expos to be fair. 

Guerrero's 2004 MVP season was his best here with 2007 probably second. 

Salmon's 1995 season was amazing! It's too bad the late season collapse took away from what a spectacular campaign. 

If you're going by OPS alone, Salmon edged out Vlad. If you're going by traditional stats + the fact that Vlad led the team down the stretch in 2004 to the playoffs, he gets it. 

I vote for Vlad, but barely edged. 

[AngelsLakersFan]

It's a lot closer than I would have guessed.

[Brandon]

54 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

Salmon had the longevity here so I can see it, but if I was picking I'd go with Guerrero slightly. 

Let's take a look at their best seasons while with the Angels because you can't use Vlad's best season when he was with the Expos to be fair. 

Guerrero's 2004 MVP season was his best here with 2007 probably second. 

Salmon's 1995 season was amazing! It's too bad the late season collapse took away from what a spectacular campaign. 

If you're going by OPS alone, Salmon edged out Vlad. If you're going by traditional stats + the fact that Vlad led the team down the stretch in 2004 to the playoffs, he gets it. 

I vote for Vlad, but barely edged. 

Agreed, I was surprised how close it was, too.

Interesting to see Bobby Abreu get an honorable mention. I kind of remember him as just basic and on his down years before retirement. Am I wrong on this? Or do we just have a somewhat weak history of RF?

Edited May 13, 2020 by Brandon

[Chuck]

4 minutes ago, Brandon said:

Agreed, I was surprised how close it was, too.

Interesting to see Bobby Abreu get an honorable mention. I kind of remember him as just basic and on his down years before retirement. Am I wrong on this? Or do we just have a somewhat weak history of RF?

Yeah, pretty weak. 

Let's hope Jo Adell will change that. I'd really like a 2022 outfield to be homegrown like the 90's. We were blessed with 4 great outfielders in GA, Erstad, Edmonds and Salmon. 

Fun fact regarding right field. 

In 1986 the Angels had a strict platoon of Ruppert Jones and George Hendrick. They combined hit 31 HR with 96 RBI, which is pretty damn productive. 

[failos]

Salmon vs Guerrerro is a tough one. The Angel fanatic in me always picks Salmon because he was the face of the franchise for some time--but Vlad has a hell of an arm, and I'll always choose him over Salmon at the plate. But, still, this is the toughest comparison you can make since LF belongs to G.A. and CF belongs to Trouty.

[Claude]

Torii Hunter played a solid RF for a couple of seasons. 

[Angel Oracle]

Either Hunter or Ford should be #5 instead of Bonds.   Bonds had a mediocre 1976 season, and one good 1977 season. 

[Angelsjunky]

6 hours ago, Brandon said:

I think Jeff DaVanon slightly edged him out

Gross.

[Angelsjunky]

I can live with that list.

[happybat4]

Fun fact, Bobby Abreu has a higher career WAR than Vlad. 

[Brandon]

He was solid with the Phils and Yankees. So it makes sense.

Edited May 14, 2020 by Brandon

[happybat4]

Honestly a pretty sad list after Salmon and Vlad. 

[happybat4]

9 hours ago, Brandon said:

He was solid with the Phils and Yankees. So it makes sense.

But Abreu nearly fell off the ballot and Vlad was a first ballot HOF. 

[happybat4]

Looking at analytics Vlad may be one of the worst defensive outfielders in history. How does an outfielder make 125 errors? He made 19 errors one year. I almost want highlights. 

[ten ocho recon scout]

23 hours ago, Chuckster70 said:

In 1986 the Angels had a strict platoon of Ruppert Jones and George Hendrick. They combined hit 31 HR with 96 RBI, which is pretty damn productive. 

Funny, was watching them a few days ago on the FSW replay. I remember very little about them because i was a little kid, but as soon as Jones came on screen i instantly remembered him.

Regarding vlad vs salmon, i think its important to remember salmon also played in a lot better lineups than vlad, most years. 

[ten ocho recon scout]

On 5/13/2020 at 10:53 AM, Brandon said:

Agreed, I was surprised how close it was, too.

Interesting to see Bobby Abreu get an honorable mention. I kind of remember him as just basic and on his down years before retirement. Am I wrong on this? Or do we just have a somewhat weak history of RF?

I think weak history to be honest.

I think its a combo of us being a "younger" team (versus the old ones), getting big name free agents in spurts instead of all the time ... and a history of getting a lot of past prime players over the years.

By the way.... torii played RF towards the end, but he'll probably be viewed as a CF only for this.

CF weve had some great ones.

Edited May 17, 2020 by ten ocho recon scout

[DMVol]

16 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

...Regarding vlad vs salmon, i think its important to remember salmon also played in a lot better lineups than vlad, most years. 

How do you figure that? Vlad played in the post season on 7 Angel teams...Salmon played on 3...

[floplag]

Im as much of a Salmon fan as anyone, still put him on my Rushmore... BUT, Vlad wins that one. 
Looking at that list i was a tad surprised we never had some better options. 

[bruin5]

It’s probably just me but I always thought of Salmon as kind of a stoic player, not a lot of personality until 2002.  At the ALCS I was kind of shocked at how much emotion and fire he showed.  It was something I really didn’t expect.  I mean all the players were pumped, but Salmon was far and away the biggest personality guy on that team.  

[happybat4]

11 minutes ago, bruin5 said:

It’s probably just me but I always thought of Salmon as kind of a stoic player, not a lot of personality until 2002.  At the ALCS I was kind of shocked at how much emotion and fire he showed.  It was something I really didn’t expect.  I mean all the players were pumped, but Salmon was far and away the biggest personality guy on that team.  

He was the oldest, probably wanted more. 

[ten ocho recon scout]

On 5/13/2020 at 7:49 PM, happybat4 said:

Fun fact, Bobby Abreu has a higher career WAR than Vlad. 

Abreu is pretty underrated. At his peak in philly, he was a monster. And STILL underrated. I think its because there were so many steroid induced power numbers going on, so a 30/30 guy wasnt as big of a deal at the time.