The Last Dance

[Lou]

58 minutes ago, Tank said:

didn't watch it last night. won't watch any of the remaining episodes.

i wasn't a fan of jordan.

Just because he got his father killed? 

So judgemental . . . 

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

4 hours ago, Keener said:

Bulls were pretty much revolving door c.  Perdue, longley...

Also had kukoc who was pretty good.

Perdue, Longley and Wennington aka what Jordan referred to as 21 feet of shit.  Teams as dominant as the bulls have their fans then pretty much everyone else dislikes them or flat out hates them but I still respect what they accomplished.  Maybe it's just me being nostalgic but I preferred the 90's and early 2000's NBA to what followed and there was no shortage of talent when the bulls were winning.  If Jordan didn't retire for a few years Hakeem and Drexler would likely be on the long list of players who never got a ring.   

[Stradling]

4 hours ago, Brandon said:

Yeah, I think Elden Campbell hit a big three to win game one before we lost the next four in a row.

I think it was Sam Perkins.  

[Brandon]

19 minutes ago, Stradling said:

I think it was Sam Perkins.  

I thought about that a while ago but after I posted, you are probably right.

[Lou]

Not a single mention of Michael Cooper? 

[Brandon]

5 minutes ago, Lou said:

Not a single mention of Michael Cooper? 

He retired right before that '90-91 season

Now Terry Teagle on the other hand.....

[mrwicked]

how prominent is John Tesh's classic NBA on NBC theme song in the documentary?

hopefully it's non stop.

[Brandon]

4 minutes ago, mrwicked said:

how prominent is Josh Tesh's classic NBA on NBC theme song in the documentary?

hopefully it's non stop.

Dude!!!!

That was my favorite thing when I was a kid. If allowed, I would have had that as my pager alert tone.

[Brandon]

This was the jam when Bob Costas would come in with updates about Sedale Threatt and Detlef Schrempf

 

[Tank]

29 minutes ago, mrwicked said:

how prominent is Josh Tesh's classic NBA on NBC theme song in the documentary?

hopefully it's non stop.

i don't know who josh tesh is, but john tesh (a cousin? brother? nephew?) came up with this.

 

[Tank]

darn you, brandon!

[Brandon]

17 minutes ago, Tank said:

darn you, brandon!

I do what I can.

But your video was better as it has history with it and a live performance.

[ten ocho recon scout]

11 hours ago, Catwhoshatinthehat said:

Perdue, Longley and Wennington aka what Jordan referred to as 21 feet of shit.  Teams as dominant as the bulls have their fans then pretty much everyone else dislikes them or flat out hates them but I still respect what they accomplished.  Maybe it's just me being nostalgic but I preferred the 90's and early 2000's NBA to what followed and there was no shortage of talent when the bulls were winning.  If Jordan didn't retire for a few years Hakeem and Drexler would likely be on the long list of players who never got a ring.   

Yep. Meant to add those last two to my post earlier about list of guys who never won a ring. And drexler, who i loved, and hakeem especially, who imna huuuuge fan of, are both top 25 guys. Olajuwon is a top 10 guy.

But, to be fair, the dream/glide rockets i think could have beaten chicago. 50/50

Hakeem especially. He never had anyone until drexler got there. Like wilkins. People forget rookie hakeem destroyed kareem, knocking the showtime lakers out of the 86 playoffs (in between rings, so they were still at their peak), and took the 86 celts to game 6.... the 86 celts being considered as the best team ever.

Then he spent the next close to a decade with a bunch of nobodies.

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

The rockets won back to back championships while Jordan was out in 94 and 95.  In Jordan's first full season back in 96 the bulls won 72 games while the Rockets still had Olajuwan, Drexler, Cassel (good player in his own right especially as the third option) then in 97 they added Barkley.  Drexler was one year older than Olajuwan, Jordan and Barkley while Pippen was two years younger than those three so age wise they were all in the same generation.  Olajuwan is probably a top 10 guy when you consider his all around game and I enjoyed watching him play but considering the bulls never lost in the finals I'd still give them the edge.  Unfortunately with Jordan stepping away we'll never know but I always wondered how those finals would have played out.

[Brandon]

That would have been a fun match up.

Not sure any of the white centers could matchup with Hakeem. They also had Horry, Cassell, Thorpe, Elie, Maxwell, and Kenny Smith.

That '94 year they swept one of the best teams I have ever seen assembled in the Orlando Magic. Shaq and Penny were great and many thought they just needed a PF, so they brought in Horace Grant. 

[Keener]

Watched first 2.  Enjoyed them.  Some fun blast from the past players that i had forgotten.  Orlando Woolridge. Sidney Moncrief!  I didnt remember that wennington was still around in the late 90s.  Also forgot they had Joe Kleine.  They really did roll through the tall white guys. 

[Brandon]

Was hoping to watch this on ESPN+.

Is it ESPN only or bust?

[Keener]

Not sure about +.  I did read that espn is unedited (just a few f bombs), while espn2 shows it edited.

[ten ocho recon scout]

On 4/21/2020 at 8:26 AM, Catwhoshatinthehat said:

The rockets won back to back championships while Jordan was out in 94 and 95.  In Jordan's first full season back in 96 the bulls won 72 games while the Rockets still had Olajuwan, Drexler, Cassel (good player in his own right especially as the third option) then in 97 they added Barkley.  Drexler was one year older than Olajuwan, Jordan and Barkley while Pippen was two years younger than those three so age wise they were all in the same generation.  Olajuwan is probably a top 10 guy when you consider his all around game and I enjoyed watching him play but considering the bulls never lost in the finals I'd still give them the edge.  Unfortunately with Jordan stepping away we'll never know but I always wondered how those finals would have played out.

Yeah, Hakeem to me is easily top 10. People sort of forget him because after the two rings, he was old kind of soon after... but its because he played on such bad teams for almost a decade before the rings. People forget that part.

Could dominate other bigs (beat shaq, ewing and robinson in the playoffs), could guard small players (for a C he looked like Lebron), dominant as hell scoring wise. 

Retired top ten in scoring, rebounds, blocks and steals. If you add his blocks and steals together, hes like 2000 more than the next guy.... he was a beast

[ten ocho recon scout]

15 hours ago, Keener said:

Watched first 2.  Enjoyed them.  Some fun blast from the past players that i had forgotten.  Orlando Woolridge. Sidney Moncrief!  I didnt remember that wennington was still around in the late 90s.  Also forgot they had Joe Kleine.  They really did roll through the tall white guys. 

Orlando was one of my faves as a kid, before i knew what coke was.

Moncrief was a stud. 

[Kevin]

On 4/20/2020 at 11:24 PM, mrwicked said:

how prominent is John Tesh's classic NBA on NBC theme song in the documentary?

hopefully it's non stop.

Agreed. There’s only one thing that rivaled it. I’m sure you and @Brandon could agree growing up in the 90’s watching hockey.

 

 

[Keener]

11 hours ago, Kevin said:

Agreed. There’s only one thing that rivaled it. I’m sure you and @Brandon could agree growing up in the 90’s watching hockey.

 

 

Weird.  I could immediately hear Gary Thorne.

[Brandon]

11 hours ago, Kevin said:

Agreed. There’s only one thing that rivaled it. I’m sure you and @Brandon could agree growing up in the 90’s watching hockey.

 

 

Yeah, totally reminds me of playoff hockey.

[arch stanton]

35 minutes ago, Keener said:

Weird.  I could immediately hear Gary Thorne.

The best by far 

[yk9001]

I watched the 1983 NCAA championship game the other day.

The Houston center was referred to as Akeem Abdul Olajuwan just about every time.

 

I remember when he changed to Hakeem.  Don't know when the Abdul got dropped.