Pederson/Stripling deal is DEAD. MOVE ON.

[Tank]

9 hours ago, ELEVEN said:

So what's the latest on the trade?

[kevinb]

When will we hear from Arte? When will Arte apologize to the fans? When will he apologize to Eppler publicly? When will he apologize to the players? Will there be a mutiny? 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

this should get us to 100 pages

[ScottT]

Arte usually talks a lot one day early in spring training 

[Chuck]

13 hours ago, Stradling said:

I still wouldn’t be surprised to see this deal happen.

 

I'm not feeling it. 

Sell me on why?

[T.G.]

2 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

I'm not feeling it. 

Sell me on why?

Strad also thinks Ol' Yeller is still alive.

[Stradling]

20 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

I'm not feeling it. 

Sell me on why?

Im not going to sell you Chuck, I would say there’s very little chance it gets done.  Having said that I wouldn’t be surprised because nothing has changed.  They still have excess and we still have needs and payroll space.   It’s still the best deal out there to improve our team even if we have to sweeten the deal a bit.   Don’t misinterpret me saying I wouldn’t be surprised as me saying it’s likely.  
 

[Chuck]

16 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Im not going to sell you Chuck, I would say there’s very little chance it gets done.  Having said that I wouldn’t be surprised because nothing has changed.  They still have excess and we still have needs and payroll space.   It’s still the best deal out there to improve our team even if we have to sweeten the deal a bit.   Don’t misinterpret me saying I wouldn’t be surprised as me saying it’s likely.  
 

I just don't see it. When Arte pulls the plug, it's as good as dead. There's no going back. 

[ELEVEN]

3 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

I just don't see it. When Arte pulls the plug, it's as good as dead. There's no going back. 

So a 2 page Memorial is in order, yeah?

[UndertheHalo]

There is no way they’ll be able to revive the trade without giving the Dodgers more to make it happen.  It’s not going to happen.  Honestly, I’m fine with it.  Stripling would have been fine, but the Angels need a higher end guy.  They’ve still got one of their best chips to make it happen.  Also, there’s a good argument to be made for keeping Rengifo.  I don’t see why the Angels should be locked into keeping Simmons.  Rengifo could legitimately develop into a nice starter.  

Edited February 12, 2020 by UndertheHalo

[Chuck]

2 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

There is no way they’ll be able to revive the trade without giving the Dodgers more to make it happen.  It’s not going to happen.  Honestly, I’m fine with it.  Stripling would have been fine, but the Angels need a higher end guy.  

The Rangers need a CF. My guess he'll get traded there for a much better prospect than Rengifo and he'll mash 40 bombs there. 

Anyhow, I'm over it. F the Dodgers. F the Red Sox. F Graterol's arm. F Stripling for his tweet. F Heyman just because and F Arte for getting impatient. 

[UndertheHalo]

42 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

The Rangers need a CF. My guess he'll get traded there for a much better prospect than Rengifo and he'll mash 40 bombs there. 

Anyhow, I'm over it. F the Dodgers. F the Red Sox. F Graterol's arm. F Stripling for his tweet. F Heyman just because and F Arte for getting impatient. 

 

[Glen]

Hoping this post will put us at 99 pages.

 

 

[ELEVEN]

I bless the rains down in Africa 

[ELEVEN]

Gonna take some 100 pages to do the things we never had

[Dick B Back]

1 hour ago, Chuckster70 said:

 When Arte pulls the plug

Arte didn’t pull the plug, Arte pulled out. There’s a difference and @tdawg87 will provide video.

[Stradling]

Locking thread!

[Hubs]

I think the industry is surprised they pulled it, or Arte pulled it, or however it went down.

I don't believe that the deal was essentially done and Arte was like Fuck it...We're out. Especially with the prospect or prospects names coming over from the Angels not leaked. He was impatient sure, but he also wouldn't have backed out of a completed deal.

There was something else up. We just don't know what it is yet.

If it gets revisited, there is a likelihood that it expands the Dodgers actually need to cut a bit more than $12.5M, and Pederson and Stripling's salary is a bit under $10M. Maybe Pedro Baez comes back as well and we send them back a reliever like Noe Ramirez or Key Middleton, and $1M in Cash. We'd also have to give up a bit more prospect capital to get Baez, but it actually helps them get under the tax.

But Rengifo, Ward, Ramirez, and another prospect like Jose Suarez would be a great deal for Pederson, Stripling, and Baez (and maybe Pages).

 

 

[Jeremiah]

2 hours ago, Stradling said:

Im not going to sell you Chuck, I would say there’s very little chance it gets done.  Having said that I wouldn’t be surprised because nothing has changed.  They still have excess and we still have needs and payroll space.   It’s still the best deal out there to improve our team even if we have to sweeten the deal a bit.   Don’t misinterpret me saying I wouldn’t be surprised as me saying it’s likely.  
 

To me that was the most baffling part of Arte backing out: it really made sense for both sides. As you say, I also wouldn’t be surprised if it wound up being completed.

[Jeremiah]

1 hour ago, Chuckster70 said:

The Rangers need a CF. My guess he'll get traded there for a much better prospect than Rengifo and he'll mash 40 bombs there. 

Anyhow, I'm over it. F the Dodgers. F the Red Sox. F Graterol's arm. F Stripling for his tweet. F Heyman just because and F Arte for getting impatient. 

If Fletch’s story is pretty much the whole story, then for me it’s mostly F BOS and F Arte. I’m not bothered by Stripling’s tweet. I’m sure the vast majority of players would rather not be traded, even if it is only about one hour south on the freeway.

[T.G.]

1 minute ago, Jeremiah said:

If Fletch’s story is pretty much the whole story, then for me it’s mostly F BOS and F Arte. I’m not bothered by Stripling’s tweet. I’m sure the vast majority of players would rather not be traded, even if it is only about five hours south on the freeway.

 

[ScottT]

F Stripling.

[Angel Oracle]

37 minutes ago, ELEVEN said:

Gonna take some 100 pages to do the things we never had

I'll Be Over This Thread

[Stradling]

You fools really want 100 pages, don’t you?

[Angel Oracle]

[Dtwncbad]

Any update on this deal?