Pederson/Stripling deal is DEAD. MOVE ON.

[Lou]

3 minutes ago, nate said:

The off season is a failure because the pitching is potentially the worst in baseball, if not very close to.

lol 

[Lou]

1 minute ago, nate said:

Cool, so the Angels can lose games 10-5 instead of 10-4

So we're giving up 1,620 runs this year? 

Wager? 

[CanadianHalo]

Just now, nate said:

Cool, so the Angels can lose games 10-5 instead of 10-4

Same song and dance every offseason with the blind homers. 
 

Then come September when we’re 15 games out they go back to the same drawer every time..

 

[nate]

1 minute ago, Lou said:

So we're giving up 1,620 runs this year? 

Wager? 

I will take over 875, your favorite bottle of scotch.

[mulwin444]

1 minute ago, nate said:

Cool, so the Angels can lose games 10-5 instead of 10-4

So, with the additions of Teheran, Bundy, and Andriese our pitching didn't improve?  Weird...

[nate]

Just now, mulwin444 said:

So, with the additions of Teheran, Bundy, and Andriese our pitching didn't improve?  Weird...

Tehran is the only improvement on that list.

Factor for a 6 man rotation when Ohtani comes back, no more Skaggs and other than Tehran and Bundy a bunch of guys that are always injured.

[ettin]

4 minutes ago, CanadianHalo said:

Same song and dance every offseason with the blind homers. 
 

Then come September when we’re 15 games out they go back to the same drawer every time..

 

Kind of funny you have an 'excuses' gif handy.

[mulwin444]

3 minutes ago, nate said:

Tehran is the only improvement on that list.

Factor for a 6 man rotation when Ohtani comes back, no more Skaggs and other than Tehran and Bundy a bunch of guys that are always injured.

Skaggs accounted for only 79 innings last season and averaged less than 100.0 IP per season for the last 4 seasons...yeah, tough to replace that.

Edited February 10, 2020 by mulwin444

[Lou]

5 minutes ago, nate said:

I will take over 875, your favorite bottle of scotch.

I don't drink scotch.

and you've gone from 10 runs/gm to 5.4 

[ten ocho recon scout]

27 minutes ago, RBM said:

There were four principals involved in this mess - Angels, Dodgers, Red Sox, Twins - but only Arte Inserted himself and grabbed headlines.

Im not defending Arte here, but..... huh?

The "headlines" all week were about the deal being held up by Boston... then Minn pulled out....

Aside from Angel fans, nobody is talking about our deal w the dogs. 

[Justin]

That was a strange article. It claims Arte pulled out of the deal, but in the same paragraph it claims that after the Boston/Minny trades, the Dodgers viewed the Angels trade as "unnecessary." 

So Arte pulled out of a deal the Dodgers didn't want to make?

[ten ocho recon scout]

25 minutes ago, nate said:

How about what Fabian said?

 

Can anyone post the specifics? Im too lazy (and short of space on my phone) to download the app

[Lou]

Just now, SoPas Angel said:

That was a strange article. It claims Arte pulled out of the deal, but in the same paragraph it claims that after the Boston/Minny trades, the Dodgers viewed the Angels trade as "unnecessary." 

So Arte pulled out of a deal the Dodgers didn't want to make?

I no longer want to bang Olivia Munn 

[nate]

5 minutes ago, Lou said:

I don't drink scotch.

and you've gone from 10 runs/gm to 5.4 

The Angels scored 4.7 runs/gm last year, do you think that they will score 5.4 this year?  Even with Rendon, you also only have Ohtani hitting 3-4 games a week.

[Justin]

Just now, Lou said:

I no longer want to bang Olivia Munn 

Look, I'm upset too. But that's just crazy talk. 

[Justin]

4 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Can anyone post the specifics? Im too lazy (and short of space on my phone) to download the app

The only thing that you can't find elsewhere is what's in the headline: that Arte Moreno ordered the Angels to pull out of the deal, "sources told The Athletic.". 

The rest is just the usual The-Angels-haven't-won-a-playoff-game-since-2009 stuff and summarizing the Dodgers/Red Sox/Minnesota trade of the last few days. 

[Lou]

6 minutes ago, nate said:

The Angels scored 4.7 runs/gm last year, do you think that they will score 5.4 this year?  Even with Rendon, you also only have Ohtani hitting 3-4 games a week.

You're changing the conversation.

Does this mean the 1,620 runs bet is a no-go?

[stormngt]

11 hours ago, Erstad Grit said:

Specifics are multiple people reported Arte was fuming and pulled out. 

That's enough. As the owner he needs to keep quiet and stay out. I appreciate his willingness to spend and expand the Angel experience but he's proved multiple times he is a terrible baseball GM. Did any reports surface about the Twins' owner emotions? No. They were flexible and got the deal done. 

You wouldn't by any chance work for CNN?

Who are the multiple sources that Arte pulled out?

[Lou]

7 minutes ago, SoPas Angel said:

Look, I'm upset too. But that's just crazy talk. 

Good point.

Let the banging commence!

[Docwaukee]

Just now, Lou said:

Good point.

Let the banging commence!

so you're an Astros fan now? 

[Lou]

Just now, Dochalo said:

so you're an Astros fan now? 

If it gets me Olivia Munn, hell yes. 

[CanadianHalo]

16 minutes ago, mulwin444 said:

Skaggs accounted for only 79 innings last season and averaged less than 100.0 IP per season for the last 4 seasons...yeah, tough to replace that.

Is this the same Skaggs that you said it would stupid to sell high on after his solid first half in 2018?

 

[zenmaster]

Bottom line: Dodgers decided they'd rather have Graterol on their 40 man than Rengifo. Shocker!

[Lou]

1 minute ago, zenmaster said:

Bottom line: Dodgers decided they'd rather have Graterol on their 40 man than Rengifo. Shocker!

But, but ... 6 years of control! 

[stormngt]

53 minutes ago, nate said:

How about what Fabian said?

 

Can someone summarize the story since it's a paid site?