Pederson/Stripling deal is DEAD. MOVE ON.

[bloodbrother]

11 minutes ago, Lou said:

"LAD saw it unnecessary " 

Rosenthal was just on MLBN and was saying that the Angels pulled the deal first. Might've had a chance to revive it but the Dodgers had decided to move on by that point. Not sure if that means that if the Angels had never pulled their offer that the deal would have went down or not.

[Lou]

2 minutes ago, bloodbrother said:

Rosenthal was just on MLBN and was saying that the Angels pulled the deal first. Might've had a chance to revive it but the Dodgers had decided to move on by that point. Not sure if that means that if the Angels had never pulled their offer that the deal would have went down or not.

Why would the dodgers make a trade that they deemed unnecessary? 

[failos]

3 minutes ago, Lou said:

Why would the dodgers make a trade that they deemed unnecessary? 

Why does Arte have to interfere with his GMs? His little outburst clearly didn’t help things

[Lou]

1 minute ago, failos said:

Why does Arte have to interfere with his GMs? His little outburst clearly didn’t help things

I don't know. Perhaps because he's the owner? 

[Mark68]

10 hours ago, TroutField said:

I mean Eppler seemed to agree on a deal that was contingent on another deal. Probably sounded fine because how often does a trade fall apart when it’s that far along? But I’m sure he learned a lesson. 

Are you sure, Senator Collins?

[Stradling]

I find it hard to believe Arte gets involved in smaller deals like this.  Now us as fanatics see this as a big deal.  But Arte has really only surfaced on big money long term deals with Star players.  Did we hear about Arte’s involvement when they sign Teheran?  Because that’s the same amount of money being paid to these two.  Or with the Bundy trade?  If Arte got frustrated he’s no different than all of us.  Since EVERYTHING changed on the Dodgers end I believe they either tried to alter it or pulled out of it.  

[zenmaster]

6 hours ago, calscuf said:

So if it somehow actually happened, do we boo Stripling?

I wouldn't boo the guy. He is on a team that has won their division every year for the past 7 or 8 years (or whatever) and been to the world series multiple times and deep into the playoff regularly. He was about to be traded to a team that hasn't won a playoff game in over a decade.  But it was a dumb move on his part tweeting that since the deal could be back on, knowing how this thing is going.

[TroutField]

8 minutes ago, Mark68 said:

Are you sure, Senator Collins?

What does this even mean? Do you have anything worthwhile to add to the thread, or no? 

[hangin n wangin]

6 hours ago, rafibomb said:

The more I think about it the more this one hurts. I was more than prepared to move into Spring Training with the team we had before this trade happened. I really believed with our roster we would be wild card contenders.Then the trade news got out and I got to thinking how much more dynamic our offense would be with Joc in the lineup and Stripling breaking out as a full-time starting pitcher (also adding in another prospect in Pages). This move would have pushed us to at the very least wild-card favorites. Then to have that all taken away..... To go back to "just being" wild card contenders feels so wrong. This shit sucks. I REALLY hope Eppler and company have something up their sleeve. Because we got a taste of how good this team can be with just one more move and it's a tough pull to swallow to go back.

Very good post. Exactly how I feel too. After seeing what could have been, it really does suck.

[nate]

Arte grew impatient at the thought of improving the pitching on the team.  I hope he gets impatient with owning the team and sells them.

[wopphil]

I don’t know what would be the Dodgers’ motivation to pull out of this trade. The Sox trade didn’t really change much regarding the complexion of their big league team, other than to result in receipt of a pen arm (which has no impact on the acquisition of Rengifo). If anything, the loss of Downs should increase their desire to acquire Rengifo.

[Lou]

I really hope Adell comes out and crushes it.

Oh, and that Stripling gets traded to Baltimore.

[Jay]

27 minutes ago, Lou said:

Why would the dodgers make a trade that they deemed unnecessary? 

Or maybe Arte deemed the deal as unnecessary and pulled it.

[DMVol]

9 minutes ago, Stradling said:

....Since EVERYTHING changed on the Dodgers end I believe they either tried to alter it or pulled out of it.  

At some point the fake news argument gets a little old....real old....Rosenthal is a hack, has an agenda, doesn’t know what he’s talking about....Geez...

[Lou]

2 minutes ago, wopphil said:

I don’t know what would be the Dodgers’ motivation to pull out of this trade.

According to Rosenthal, they saw it as unnecessary.

[Lou]

1 minute ago, Jay said:

Or maybe Arte deemed the deal as unnecessary and pulled it.

That's not what Rosenthal said.

[ELEVEN]

9 hours ago, Keener said:

1,069

Niice

[failos]

29 minutes ago, Lou said:

I don't know. Perhaps because he's the owner? 

Then why doesn’t he fire Eppler and become GM

[DMVol]

5 minutes ago, Lou said:

According to Rosenthal, they saw it as unnecessary.

 

4 minutes ago, Lou said:

That's not what Rosenthal said.

He said Arte pulled out, could have been revived but Dodgers saw it as unnecessary....I assume you start that analysis with Arte pulled out....but that’s just me....carry on....

[Lou]

Just now, failos said:

Then why doesn’t he fire Eppler and become GM

That's ridiculous.

[ELEVEN]

8 hours ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

...... im picturing a finger up my butt during missionary

Now we know where tdawg was...

[Lou]

3 minutes ago, DMVol said:

 

He said Arte pulled out, could have been revived but Dodgers saw it as unnecessary....I assume you start that analysis with Arte pulled out....but that’s just me....carry on....

Ok, so let's say we tried to revive it 

The dodgers were going to make the trade even though they deemed it unnecessary?

[T.G.]

27 minutes ago, Stradling said:

I find it hard to believe Arte gets involved in smaller deals like this.  Now us as fanatics see this as a big deal.  But Arte has really only surfaced on big money long term deals with Star players.  Did we hear about Arte’s involvement when they sign Teheran?  Because that’s the same amount of money being paid to these two.  Or with the Bundy trade?  If Arte got frustrated he’s no different than all of us.  Since EVERYTHING changed on the Dodgers end I believe they either tried to alter it or pulled out of it.  

Not knowing the guy personally... nothing would surprise me.  All I know is that it's being reported that Arte pulled the deal.

[Blarg]

Too many moving parts in this trade to say any one reason caused it not to be completed as was rumored. 

Pitchers and catchers report tomorrow!

[KevinStockerIsGod]

I think I’m seeing what happened, but it’s just my opinion.  I’ll first say I think adding pederson and stripling would have rounded out the roster nicely, especially if the only player of consequence on the major league side was Rengifo going.  
 

Our trade was agreed to pending completion of the Betts trade.  When Boston held up the deal, Arte probably grew super impatient, especially with it playing out in public, and didn’t want to be left twisting in the wind.  Probably short sided, but I digress...  then when the Betts trade was resolved yesterday, we reconvened and the Dodgers didn’t want to move forward with deal as constructed.  The 40 man issues with adding the Twins pitcher to the new deal may have precluded the original terms anyway.  At the end of the day, I believe if the Red Sox would not have held up everything and the deal changed, this would have gone down.  Maybe it can be revisited as Rosenthal mentioned, but we’ll see.
 

Love our team, hopefully Adell rips it up and we can get some help in season.