Pederson/Stripling deal is DEAD. MOVE ON.

[DCAngelsFan]

4 minutes ago, hangin n wangin said:

Yea...I like Refigno, but I like the deal more. It addresses a need, while Refigno doesn't really have place right now. I always thought Refigno was going to be a solid player. I didn't think how solid until my friend mentioned Segura. My intial reaction was "this guy is bat shit". Then I thought about it...and it's actually possible. I won't tell him that.

Yeah, the deal as reported makes us better, at least for this season - a Pederson / Goodwin platoon and a hopefully healthy Upton will make us an entertaining offense, at least.  And Stripling has a *lot* of upside - if he stays healthy, and can start, he could be a bit of a steal.

Depending on the prospect we send back ...   

[Lou]

1 minute ago, Lou said:

Someone here mentioned Pederson's arbitration hearing when the deal was first announced.

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15 minutes ago, Warfarin said:

Who is "someone"?

 

Lou 

[Warfarin]

3 minutes ago, mymerlincat said:

 

Alright, so I'm guessing this won't be completed until Friday.  Seems like the Betts deal could be finished today, with our deal being completed tomorrow, once Pederson's salary is determined.

[Lou]

4 minutes ago, Lou said:

Lou 

He's a nice chap 

[ettin]

10 hours ago, Dochalo said:

he was tipping.  

Yes but what kind of tipping? Pitches? Cows?

[eligrba]

22 minutes ago, Lou said:

.

.

 

Lou 

 

18 minutes ago, Lou said:

He's a nice chap 

Link?

[Taylor]

36 pages, and still no confirmation on Pages.

[Lou]

21 minutes ago, ettin said:

Yes but what kind of tipping? Pitches? Cows?

caps.

 

how soon they forget

[totdprods]

I have to think this last Angels prospect has to be someone who has a really high ceiling and potential but is also someone with a lot of uncertainty. Should be someone the Dodgers really, really like and think they can develop into something special because the deal seems pretty good to be true. Pages essentially seems like Jackson, but in the OF. And maybe better all-around. Or they really, really like Rengifo. Both could be true too.

Adams, Knowles, Deveaux, Kochanowicz, Yan, Soriano or Jackson make the most sense to me...Fabian has made it sound like Adams and Jackson aren’t in the mix though. 

Edited February 6, 2020 by totdprods

[Mark68]

This sums things up for me. Get this shit done, already!

[ScruffytheJanitor]

2 hours ago, Stradling said:

Yea, I think Rengifo is going to be pretty good. 

Even so, you have to make this deal. Not only because Rengifo isn't going to play that much here (especially if we we extend Simmons at some point), but also because our return (Stripling and Pederson should be worth about 5-6 WAR next year; Stripling is old but controllable, and Pages looks like a pretty decent gamble) is too good. 

[Docwaukee]

are they conducting the trade negotiations through the mail?  

[GrittyVeterans]

I’ll be honest, I think Joc has earned closer to the 9.5 million he’s asking for than what the dodgers offered

[GrittyVeterans]

2 minutes ago, ScruffytheJanitor said:

Even so, you have to make this deal. Not only because Rengifo isn't going to play that much here (especially if we we extend Simmons at some point), but also because our return (Stripling and Pederson should be worth about 5-6 WAR next year; Stripling is old but controllable, and Pages looks like a pretty decent gamble) is too good. 

I agree with your point. Also Stripling is 30. I’m not sure I would describe that as old. Not young either though 

[Lou]

Segura over the last 4 years:

.301 BA

.346/.442/.788

 

Rengifo will never have a 4-yr stretch like that. 

[Hubs]

1 hour ago, Lou said:

Rengifo will not be the next Jean Segura 

He’s Macier Izturis at best.

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, Hubs said:

He’s Cesar Izturis at best.

I believe he will be better than that, but then again I could be underestimating Cesar.  

[Stradling]

8 minutes ago, Lou said:

Segura over the last 4 years:

.301 BA

.346/.442/.788

 

Rengifo will never have a 4-yr stretch like that. 

Yea, I just looked up Segura and I don’t think Rengifo will be able to post a peak like Segura where he had a 5.5 WAR, but I can see Rengifo putting up 3.5-4.5 WAR seasons pretty regularly.  

[Stradling]

5 minutes ago, Hubs said:

He’s Cesar Izturis at best.

Ok, I just looked up Cesar Izturis and Rengifo will be MUCH better than him.  Cesar put up a 6.4 WAR for his entire career.  Rengifo will have that beat in 2 years with regular playing time.  

[failos]

10 minutes ago, Hubs said:

He’s Cesar Izturis at best.

That dude was money when he played for the Angels.

 

edit: oops I thought you said Maicer Izturis.

Edited February 6, 2020 by failos

[gotbeer]

29 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

are they conducting the trade negotiations through the mail?  

Just like the Iowa Caucus.

[Stradling]

@Hubs did you mean Macier Izturis?

[Hubs]

4 minutes ago, failos said:

That dude was money when he played for the Angels.

 

edit: oops I thought you said Maicer Izturis.

I actually meant Macier, don’t know why I wrote Cesar.

[Chuck]

 

[hangin n wangin]

2 minutes ago, Stradling said:

I believe he will be better than that, but then again I could be underestimating Cesar.  

You're not. Cesar was trash. Rengifo already has almost caught up to Cesar in career WAR at age 22.

Rengifo should be a solid 2-3 WAR player a year with full playing time. I don't think he will be as good as Segura, but I think it's a good comparison if he maxed out on his potential.