SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19

[mtangelsfan]

3 minutes ago, fishbulb said:

I'm aware of this.

You must think I'm in favor of lockdowns willy nilly.

Not necessarily, I just don’t think small businesses losing their existence is one of your priorities 

[RallyMo]

8 minutes ago, mtangelsfan said:

Not necessarily, I just don’t think small businesses losing their existence is one of your priorities 

I know.

Can you tell me what my priorities are?

[tdawg87]

7 minutes ago, fishbulb said:

I know.

Can you tell me what my priorities are?

1. Consensual intercourse with men.

2. 

[RallyMo]

10 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

1. Consensual intercourse with men.

2. 

Consent is important.

[tdawg87]

16 minutes ago, fishbulb said:

Consent is important.

Obviously. Otherwise you're Trump.

[tdawg87]

System of a Down

[Blarg]

2 hours ago, fishbulb said:

I'm aware of this.

You must think I'm in favor of lockdowns willy nilly.

Certainly not Willy but Nilly is completely out of control. 

[Taylor]

4 hours ago, mtangelsfan said:

Considering it has been brought up multiple times in this thread alone,

yes

Isn't it possible to care about small businesses AND the people who get COVID? 

[Taylor]

3 hours ago, mtangelsfan said:

Not necessarily, I just don’t think small businesses losing their existence is one of your priorities 

He's a healthcare worker, so it would make sense that his priority is COVID safety. Someone who owns or has ever owned a small business would likely have a different priority.

But we can all understand and care about the different kinds of people who are affected by this pandemic.

 

[mtangelsfan]

7 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Isn't it possible to care about small businesses AND the people who get COVID? 

I can only go by what individuals post about.  Libs on here don’t generally post about it

[UndertheHalo]

People needed to be paid to stay home for 5 to 6 weeks and rents for businesses needed to be suspended etc.  a national *enforced* mask mandate needed to be implemented.  All these faux half measures were always doomed to fail.  We don’t have the ability or the culture for a lot of reasons to effectively confront this challenge.  So 500K people are going to die.  
 

pretty funny that shortly before all this happened we were all talking about the massive institutional failure of the USSR to effectively deal with the Chernobyl disaster and how that couldn’t possibly happen here.  Lol.  Owned. 

[UndertheHalo]

And while I accept that Fauci needed to go along with the early advisories saying that masks weren’t necessary, it’s now to clear to me that he should have resigned when the CDC changed the direction.  His legitimacy on the topic was wholly compromised.  He’s not the only epidemiologist in the country.  He only served to give ammunition to the absolute moron chuds that still continue to refuse to wear masks. 

Edited December 6, 2020 by UndertheHalo

[St1ck]

TIL I don't care about small businesses. Good to have you back MT. 

[T.G.]

17 hours ago, Tank said:

To that, I say... I'd rather watch a winner than listen to one.

[Blarg]

1 hour ago, UndertheHalo said:

People needed to be paid to stay home for 5 to 6 weeks and rents for businesses needed to be suspended etc.

Who pays the cost of rent suspension? There is upstream costs for commercial property ownership. 

[UndertheHalo]

9 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Who pays the cost of rent suspension? There is upstream costs for commercial property ownership. 

Whatever unavoidable operating costs  should have just been paid for.  I don’t really think it would have been a problem.  We know now that large entities that required no assistance took tons of ppp.  Just cause.  

[ScottT]

2 hours ago, Taylor said:

Isn't it possible to care about small businesses AND the people who get COVID? 

Is it possible to not vote for Trump but not want socialism?

Its amazing that these are somewhat legit questions.  And its always been this way.

[Blarg]

41 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

Whatever unavoidable operating costs  should have just been paid for.  I don’t really think it would have been a problem.  We know now that large entities that required no assistance took tons of ppp.  Just cause.  

Property is bought as an investment but it doesn't mean it was paid for as a straight cash investment. The rent offsets the loan and tax costs. 

So, are the banks supposed to just not collect on loans and how does that work? How solvent would banks be without that money flowing back to them?

It seems you've created a domino effect that could topple the entire commercial real estate market along with the financial institutions they work with. 

[UndertheHalo]

The money necessary to maintain the solvency of the banks would obviously need to be made available to the extent necessary.  And i didn’t say people’s bills would all be cancelled I said that they should be given money to keep afloat.  There are obviously some exceptions to my comment on paying people to stay home.  There are of course essential workers - who should have through all of this received substantial hazard pay.  Whose work places should have been made as safe as possible.  But when we’re talking about people who own small businesses.  Restaurants, small retailers.  Etc.  money should have just been given directly to these people to keep their doors shut and keep them afloat.  Much could have been and should have been done differently.  
 

 

 

[Blarg]

So, how much debt does who pay for to accomplish an undefined goal? 

[UndertheHalo]

It’s not an undefined goal.  It’s blunting the uncontrolled spread of the demon virus killing hundreds of thousands of people and ruining our lives.   

[Blarg]

Who pays for it? 

[UndertheHalo]

You do Blarg.  You do. 

[Lhalo]

30 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

You do Blarg.  You do. 

The people who pay the most taxes do. Gotta love socialists who think they know how best to spend other people’s money. Quite the talent they have. 

[Blarg]

1 hour ago, UndertheHalo said:

You do Blarg.  You do. 

I'll opt out of this one.