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4 minutes ago, Orange Lives Matter said:

Ok... but for all the parents with jobs who are now forced to leave their jobs and stay home to take care of their kids education, how will they make up for lost wages and dramatic shift in life earnings-wise?

Schools are not daycares, parents have gotten used to using schools as such, but in reality teacher's are not babysitters, their job is to teach. They can provide that service remotely when it is unsafe for in person teaching. The government should figure out how to help parents with day care during these times, not the teachers. 

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1 minute ago, tennischmp said:

Schools are not daycares, parents have gotten used to using schools as such, but in reality teacher's are not babysitters, their job is to teach. They can provide that service remotely when it is unsafe for in person teaching. The government should figure out how to help parents with day care during these times, not the teachers. 

Okay you didn’t answer any of the real questions... you just talked about day cares...

Once again what about people not privileged enough to walk away from work?... single moms, working class parents???

Or the people without the infrastructure of having internet or a computer / tablet?

Heck some of these parents are not educated in and of itself... so how are they going to be helping in the teaching of their kids when they don’t know beyond basic reading, writing and math?...

Also another thing you might know of is many of these kids also get a lot of their meals from schools because some of these parents just don’t have the means of providing the standard three daily meals... what’s your NOT SO VAGUE (oh the government will fix it) solution to this too?

Once again only people who are gonna get screwed in all of this is the poor and minorities (the people liberals say they fight for)

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Orange Lives Matter said:

Okay you didn’t answer any of the real questions... you just talked about day cares...

Once again what about people not privileged enough to walk away from work?... single moms, working class parents???

Or the people without the infrastructure of having internet or a computer / tablet?

Heck some of these parents are not educated in and of itself... so how are they going to be helping in the teaching of their kids when they don’t know beyond basic reading, writing and math?...

Also another thing you might know of is many of these kids also get a lot of their meals from schools because some of these parents just don’t have the means of providing the standard three daily meals... what’s your NOT SO VAGUE (oh the government will fix it) solution to this too?

Once again only people who are gonna get screwed in all of this is the poor and minorities (the people liberals say they fight for)

 

 

What did those single moms, working class parents do before their children became school aged? 

My solution? You may not like it but continue providing "unemployment benefits" to those families with children even if they go back to work so they could use it on for child care. 

Also a lot of the schools are still providing meals even when not open.

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3 minutes ago, Randy Gradishar said:

Those are the tough questions, man. I'm hoping one of the silver linings from all this is that we see some permanent shifts in society for the better, such as a more socialist approach to government spending and taxation.

At the very least, we should have a lot more people working from home from now on. The idea of my sitting in a death trap for 2 hours a day to email and call people all day now just feels utterly absurd.

Will we??... I know many HARDWORKING and AMAZING people who work as part of cleaning crews, gardeners, restaurants professionals, Uber drivers, food delivery, nursing care... how do these working class / onsite professionals get some of that WORK FROM HOME PRIVILEGE??

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1 minute ago, tennischmp said:

What did those single moms, working class parents do before their children became school aged? 

My solution? You may not like it but continue providing "unemployment benefits" to those families with children even if they go back to work so they could use it on for child care. 

Also a lot of the schools are still providing meals even when not open.

So print more money to pay out more people to not produce which will in turn cause shortages in manufacturing and services, which will make prices to go up (inflation) which will create more wealth disparity for the have and have nots and set back poor people some more...

By the way your plan is the perfect plan for all us rich white liberals who own our houses, have our money diversified in stocks, bonds, investment properties and precious metals 

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9 minutes ago, Orange Lives Matter said:

So print more money to pay out more people to not produce which will in turn cause shortages in manufacturing and services, which will make prices to go up (inflation) which will create more wealth disparity for the have and have nots and set back poor people some more...

By the way your plan is the perfect plan for all us rich white liberals who own our houses, have our money diversified in stocks, bonds, investment properties and precious metals 

Like I said you may not like the solution. Your solution is to use the teachers salaries. 

No need to print more money, have Mexico reimburse us for the 11 billion dollar (and counting) wall project they were supposed to pay for and use that to fund people's child care during this time

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1 minute ago, tennischmp said:

Like I said you may not like the solution. Your solution is to use the teachers salaries. 

No need to print more money, have Mexico reimburse us for the 11 billion dollar (and counting) wall project they were supposed to pay for and use that to fund people's child care during this time

Alrighty brah... keep deflecting...

I hit you up with basic economics and you hit me up with a WEAK SAUCE solution that has nothing to do with anything with regards to this problem...

But tell ya what tennischimp let me give ya something you might be able to handle since you have the name tennis in your AngelsWin name...

So been having some elbow discomfort (not pain) lately... did some research and I’m pretty sure it’s tennis elbow... how do you fix tennis elbow?... 

Oh and thank you in advance for the advice... I really feel like you got this one 😉

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12 minutes ago, Orange Lives Matter said:

Alrighty brah... keep deflecting...

I hit you up with basic economics and you hit me up with a WEAK SAUCE solution that has nothing to do with anything with regards to this problem...

But tell ya what tennischimp let me give ya something you might be able to handle since you have the name tennis in your AngelsWin name...

So been having some elbow discomfort (not pain) lately... did some research and I’m pretty sure it’s tennis elbow... how do you fix tennis elbow?... 

Oh and thank you in advance for the advice... I really feel like you got this one 😉

No one's deflecting, the government wastes lots of money on other crap but when it comes to providing for single moms and working parents for child care when it is unsafe to open in person schools during a pandemic, well that's printing money.

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15 minutes ago, tennischmp said:

No one's deflecting, the government wastes lots of money on other crap but when it comes to providing for single moms and working parents for child care when it is unsafe to open in person schools during a pandemic, well that's printing money.

Once again another INTELLECTUALLY LAZY and NO MEANING response...

Okay... let me try this again... seeing how you don’t get basic economics and how you HATE poor minorities (because your plan will only hurt poor minorities in the long run)...

I want to change the subject for your sake and ask you something you might know something about (because once again the word tennis is in your AngelsWin name)...

HOW DO YOU FIX TENNIS ELBOW???

Thank You again in advance, really BELIEVE in you with this one

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1 hour ago, Orange Lives Matter said:

Once again another INTELLECTUALLY LAZY and NO MEANING response...

Okay... let me try this again... seeing how you don’t get basic economics and how you HATE poor minorities (because your plan will only hurt poor minorities in the long run)...

I want to change the subject for your sake and ask you something you might know something about (because once again the word tennis is in your AngelsWin name)...

HOW DO YOU FIX TENNIS ELBOW???

Thank You again in advance, really BELIEVE in you with this one

OK for the final time, we both want to fund childcare for the parents who are unable to stay home. You want to use the funds allocated to schools which in turn will be hurting the teachers even though they are more than capable of providing their services safely at home. I want to use funds the government has allocated for other functions(such as building a border wall). Again like I said you don't have to like my solution and I don't have to like yours. 

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1 hour ago, Randy Gradishar said:

At the very least, we should have a lot more people working from home from now on.

I saw a news item on BBC that said that there is concern among office building owners that there may be a permanent shift by some companies to having large numbers of people work at home. This has shown that a lot of the leased office space isn't essential for business.

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5 hours ago, tennischmp said:

Schools are not daycares, parents have gotten used to using schools as such, but in reality teacher's are not babysitters, their job is to teach. They can provide that service remotely when it is unsafe for in person teaching. The government should figure out how to help parents with day care during these times, not the teachers. 

So it’s safe to send the kids to daycare but not school? Makes sense 

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4 hours ago, Randy Gradishar said:

Those are the tough questions, man. I'm hoping one of the silver linings from all this is that we see some permanent shifts in society for the better, such as a more socialist approach to government spending and taxation.

At the very least, we should have a lot more people working from home from now on. The idea of my sitting in a death trap for 2 hours a day to email and call people all day now just feels utterly absurd.

Do you think working from home and just spending all your time in your house is good for the overall, mental wellbeing of Americans? So many of you left wingers just want lockdowns as if they are the solution to all this. At least try to have an understanding that this situation is far more complex than the simple talking points 

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5 hours ago, tennischmp said:

Schools are not daycares, parents have gotten used to using schools as such, but in reality teacher's are not babysitters, their job is to teach. They can provide that service remotely when it is unsafe for in person teaching. The government should figure out how to help parents with day care during these times, not the teachers. 

What do really know of the actual process of teaching? It appears to be nothing. 

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6 hours ago, tennischmp said:

OK for the final time, we both want to fund childcare for the parents who are unable to stay home. You want to use the funds allocated to schools which in turn will be hurting the teachers even though they are more than capable of providing their services safely at home. I want to use funds the government has allocated for other functions(such as building a border wall). Again like I said you don't have to like my solution and I don't have to like yours. 

Once again typical liberal logic... OH I DON’T LIKE SOMETHING (the wall in this case) SO LET ME BRING UP SAID SOMETHING I DON’T LIKE INTO THE DISCUSSION AS MY EMOTIONAL BLACKMAIL TRUMP CARD...

The border wall has NOTHING to do with teachers not wanting to do their jobs

The border wall has NOTHING to do with THE LOW NUMBERS OF CHILDREN ACTUALLY CATCHING THE DISEASE, DYING AND OR PASSING IT OFF ONTO OTHERS

The border wall has NOTHING to do with SOME parents not being smart enough to teach their kids

The border wall has NOTHING to do with households not having access to the internet or computers

The border wall has NOTHING to do with kids not having access to three daily meals

The border wall has NOTHING to do with kids if left on their own not logging into the system that school created and getting an actual education

Brah I’m trying to be nice to you by bringing up tennis elbow (TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT FOR YOU) because you’re embarrassing yourself with your lack of knowledge on this...

This will only set back the poor and minorities WHICH IS PERFECT FOR DEMOCRATS because it’s much easier to control the WEAK and UNEDUCATED 

Now go find yourself a tennis forum to go play in... AND NEVER bring a tennis racket to an intellectual conversation or gun fight 

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7 hours ago, Orange Lives Matter said:

Okay you didn’t answer any of the real questions... you just talked about day cares...

Once again what about people not privileged enough to walk away from work?... single moms, working class parents???

Or the people without the infrastructure of having internet or a computer / tablet?

Heck some of these parents are not educated in and of itself... so how are they going to be helping in the teaching of their kids when they don’t know beyond basic reading, writing and math?...

Also another thing you might know of is many of these kids also get a lot of their meals from schools because some of these parents just don’t have the means of providing the standard three daily meals... what’s your NOT SO VAGUE (oh the government will fix it) solution to this too?

Once again only people who are gonna get screwed in all of this is the poor and minorities (the people liberals say they fight for)

 

 

Not to mention that kids need some sort of social time with classmates, which helps in their growth; even if that means cutting physical class size in half for social distancing and having kids alternate between physical attendance one week and virtual attendance another? 

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5 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

Not to mention that kids need some sort of social time with classmates, which helps in their growth; even if that means cutting physical class size in half for social distancing and having kids alternate between physical attendance one week and virtual attendance another? 

I think that would be a good starting point and would reduce potential exposures to COVID

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3 hours ago, Jason said:

Do you think working from home and just spending all your time in your house is good for the overall, mental wellbeing of Americans? So many of you left wingers just want lockdowns as if they are the solution to all this. At least try to have an understanding that this situation is far more complex than the simple talking points 

What should have happened from mid-March on, was to allow all businesses not under phases 3 and 4 to stay open with the social distancing rules; and those that didn't abide would then get one warning and on a second occurrence would then be forced to close.   No need to cripple many businesses for the egressions of some    

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4 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

What should have happened from mid-March on, was to allow all businesses not under phases 3 and 4 to stay open with the social distancing rules; and those that didn't abide would then get one warning and on a second occurrence would then be forced to close.   No need to cripple many businesses for the egressions of some    

spot on

Spot On

SPOT ON

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54 minutes ago, calscuf said:

Ok Brian.

Ok Little Boy... thank you for your most recent valuable contributions in this discussion about covid, schools and shut downs...

I really don’t know what we would do without your Scooby like investigative skills...

I’m truly flattered with the attention and fetish like passion you’ve showen towards my identity 

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8 minutes ago, tennischmp said:

I don't know who Brian is, but he doesn't sound like a guy with a high IQ

Brah, everybody is steam rollIng the sh*t out of your talking points...

I presented you with a breakdown of how your “knowledge” (and I use the term knowledge very loosely with you) is flawed and you come back with this??

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