SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19

[gotbeer]

2 hours ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

First order of business. Cancel the stupid bullet train between LA and SF.

Second order of business. Build a more relaxed, "chill train" (with the interior done up like a pimps cadillac) to Vegas.

You are already better than any governor we have had in a decade.

[gotbeer]

1 hour ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/609577/

Chances of that happening in the it's all about me generation.  Zero.  

Chances of it becoming some kind of youtube challenge that includes going into some public place and doing something stupid.  100%

[Taylor]

41 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Once elected, im gonna combine trump and clinton. 

Gonna point to reporters and say "whats your question". And if its stupid, ill put on my dark shades, and drown them out with my hip ass saxophone goodness.

Annoying white house correspondent -"Mr. President, you said 4 weeks ago that this is the time for Americans to come together, but youre now pushing for executive legislation to add the dodgers to the axis of evil, along with north korea and..."

Me-

 

How you aren't King of the World baffles me.

[Blarg]

1 hour ago, Adam said:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/04/07/ezekiel_emanuel_us_must_stay_locked_down_for_12-18_months_until_theres_a_vaccine.html
 

This guy can eat my ass. I’d rather be shot in the dick by some asshole cop

 

1 hour ago, RallyMo said:

Yeah, this kind of crap is not the way we should be thinking.

You are right, most cops are so inaccurate they couldn't hit dick in less than two clips. There has to be a better way. 

[fan_since79]

1 hour ago, RallyMo said:

Yeah, this kind of crap is not the way we should be thinking.

So the brother of Rahm Emanuel would destroy the country in order to save the lives of the few remaining cases of the virus 12-18 months out from now.

How do these guys get to actual positions of influence??

[Lou]

Just now, fan_since79 said:

So the brother of Rahm Emanuel would destroy the country in order to save the lives of the few remaining cases of the virus 12-18 months out from now.

How do these guys get to actual positions of influence??

[Blarg]

1 minute ago, fan_since79 said:

So the brother of Rahm Emanuel would destroy the country in order to save the lives of the few remaining cases of the virus 12-18 months out from now.

How do these guys get to actual positions of influence??

Ten Ocho didn't run for mayor in their city. 

[AngelsLakersFan]

25 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

Chances of that happening in the it's all about me generation.  Zero

You’re right, the baby boomers would never go for it

[red321]

13 hours ago, gotbeer said:

When this is all over.  It will be interesting to see who went to the hospital with some condition like a stroke or kidney dialysis, and dies of the Rona.  

This is one of many issues I have with this countries response.  We are putting a virus who targets the very sick and old, in a place where people who are very sick go.  China is bad.  But at lest they treated Rona patients in their own seperate hospitals.  Who knows, maybe their rates are legitimately going down and this is one of the reasons.

It will be interesting, in large part because the mortality rate in NYC is significantly higher than previous averages and deaths officially tied to the virus do not account for the difference. There are probably a large number of people dying that aren't being counted as covid related, or indirectly related (couldn't get access to emergency services/healthcare due to Covid related cases overburdening the healthcare system).

This is a similar story to what is being told in Italy and Spain.

https://gothamist.com/news/surge-number-new-yorkers-dying-home-officials-suspect-undercount-covid-19-related-deaths

As of Monday afternoon, 2,738 New York City residents have died from ‘confirmed’ cases of COVID-19, according to the city Department of Health. That’s an average of 245 a day since the previous Monday. 

But another 200 city residents are now dying at home each day, compared to 20 to 25 such deaths before the pandemic, said Aja Worthy-Davis, a spokeswoman for the medical examiner’s office. And an untold number of them are unconfirmed. 

That’s because the ME’s office is not testing dead bodies for COVID-19. Instead, they’re referring suspected cases to the city’s health department as “probable.”

“If someone dies at home, and we go to the home and there [are] signs of influenza, our medical examiner may determine the cause of death was clearly an influenza-like illness, potentially COVID or an influenza-like illness believed to be COVID,” said Worthy-Davis. “We report all our deaths citywide to the health department, who releases that data to the public.” 

But the health department does not include that number in the official count unless it is confirmed, a spokesman said. 

“Every person with a lab confirmed COVID-19 diagnosis is counted in the number of fatalities,” the spokesman, Michael Lanza, said in an email. He said the city's coronavirus death tally does not break down who died at home versus who died in a hospital from the virus....

....

The FDNY says it responded to 2,192 cases of deaths at home between March 20th and April 5th, or about 130 a day, an almost 400 percent increase from the same time period last year. (In 2019, there were just 453 cardiac arrest calls where a patient died, according to the FDNY.) 

That number has been steadily increasing since March 30th, with 241 New Yorkers dying at home Sunday — more than the number of confirmed COVID-19 deaths that occurred citywide that day. On Monday night, the city reported 266 new deaths, suggesting the possibility of a 40% undercount of coronavirus-related deaths. 

 

[ten ocho recon scout]

42 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

You are already better than any governor we have had in a decade.

"As your governor, I will force youtube to finally allow the ability to stream its free content to your phone, while being able to turn the screen off" 

(Crowd goes crazy)

(Waves hands to get everyone to stop cheering) "yeah, and did I mention, as your governor, that the last friday of each month will be McRib day?"

 

 

Taking apps for assistant governor, boys. Or vice governor maybe?

[ten ocho recon scout]

36 minutes ago, Taylor said:

How you aren't King of the World baffles me.

As King of the world, Ill outlaw all languages besides english (because Im too lazy to learn new ones, and all the great sitcoms are already in english), but for all world citizens who make the transition by 2023 get free access to both HBO, as well as a fee waiver to watch the pay per view event where all players and fans from Boston sports teams do bull fights, but with no sword. (My money is on the bull for that one).

"Eh maHky, look at the size of the HaHns on that bool!" (Then donny wahlberg gets gored).

[ten ocho recon scout]

27 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Ten Ocho didn't run for mayor in their city. 

Im gonna start with a better city, like Signal Hill, and tackle the climate issues.

[ten ocho recon scout]

11 minutes ago, red321 said:

It will be interesting, in large part because the mortality rate in NYC is significantly higher than previous averages and deaths officially tied to the virus do not account for the difference. There are probably a large number of people dying that aren't being counted as covid related, or indirectly related (couldn't get access to emergency services/healthcare due to Covid related cases overburdening the healthcare system).

This is a similar story to what is being told in Italy and Spain.

https://gothamist.com/news/surge-number-new-yorkers-dying-home-officials-suspect-undercount-covid-19-related-deaths

As of Monday afternoon, 2,738 New York City residents have died from ‘confirmed’ cases of COVID-19, according to the city Department of Health. That’s an average of 245 a day since the previous Monday. 

But another 200 city residents are now dying at home each day, compared to 20 to 25 such deaths before the pandemic, said Aja Worthy-Davis, a spokeswoman for the medical examiner’s office. And an untold number of them are unconfirmed. 

That’s because the ME’s office is not testing dead bodies for COVID-19. Instead, they’re referring suspected cases to the city’s health department as “probable.”

“If someone dies at home, and we go to the home and there [are] signs of influenza, our medical examiner may determine the cause of death was clearly an influenza-like illness, potentially COVID or an influenza-like illness believed to be COVID,” said Worthy-Davis. “We report all our deaths citywide to the health department, who releases that data to the public.” 

But the health department does not include that number in the official count unless it is confirmed, a spokesman said. 

“Every person with a lab confirmed COVID-19 diagnosis is counted in the number of fatalities,” the spokesman, Michael Lanza, said in an email. He said the city's coronavirus death tally does not break down who died at home versus who died in a hospital from the virus....

....

The FDNY says it responded to 2,192 cases of deaths at home between March 20th and April 5th, or about 130 a day, an almost 400 percent increase from the same time period last year. (In 2019, there were just 453 cardiac arrest calls where a patient died, according to the FDNY.) 

That number has been steadily increasing since March 30th, with 241 New Yorkers dying at home Sunday — more than the number of confirmed COVID-19 deaths that occurred citywide that day. On Monday night, the city reported 266 new deaths, suggesting the possibility of a 40% undercount of coronavirus-related deaths. 

 

Yep. The true number is going to be impossible to ever know for sure. 

For all we know, people could have been dying of "the flu" before this was officially on our radar.

[Lou]

17 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

"As your governor, I will force youtube to finally allow the ability to stream its free content to your phone, while being able to turn the screen off" 

(Crowd goes crazy)

(Waves hands to get everyone to stop cheering) "yeah, and did I mention, as your governor, that the last friday of each month will be McRib day?"

 

Taking apps for assistant governor, boys. Or vice governor maybe?

Make Wednesday Breakfast Burrito Day and I'm your man.

[Chuck]

21 hours ago, Taylor said:

I did not. But Brandon called us "fucking idiots" the other day. 

 

22 hours ago, calscuf said:

Ah hell is chuck turning this place into some menstruation palace where real men can’t use real men words now?

Negative. This place is still a bar crowd scene where you can get away with calling someone a fucking idiot that you've drank a beer with before, but words like fag are a little over the top.

Unless of course if it's from Spicoli. Then it's fair game! 

Enjoy, assholes! 

[m0nkey]

If we keep everyone locked up so that people don't die from the virus, people are going to start dying from being poor.

[RallyMo]

23 minutes ago, red321 said:

It will be interesting, in large part because the mortality rate in NYC is significantly higher than previous averages and deaths officially tied to the virus do not account for the difference. There are probably a large number of people dying that aren't being counted as covid related, or indirectly related (couldn't get access to emergency services/healthcare due to Covid related cases overburdening the healthcare system).

This is a similar story to what is being told in Italy and Spain.

https://gothamist.com/news/surge-number-new-yorkers-dying-home-officials-suspect-undercount-covid-19-related-deaths

As of Monday afternoon, 2,738 New York City residents have died from ‘confirmed’ cases of COVID-19, according to the city Department of Health. That’s an average of 245 a day since the previous Monday. 

But another 200 city residents are now dying at home each day, compared to 20 to 25 such deaths before the pandemic, said Aja Worthy-Davis, a spokeswoman for the medical examiner’s office. And an untold number of them are unconfirmed. 

That’s because the ME’s office is not testing dead bodies for COVID-19. Instead, they’re referring suspected cases to the city’s health department as “probable.”

“If someone dies at home, and we go to the home and there [are] signs of influenza, our medical examiner may determine the cause of death was clearly an influenza-like illness, potentially COVID or an influenza-like illness believed to be COVID,” said Worthy-Davis. “We report all our deaths citywide to the health department, who releases that data to the public.” 

But the health department does not include that number in the official count unless it is confirmed, a spokesman said. 

“Every person with a lab confirmed COVID-19 diagnosis is counted in the number of fatalities,” the spokesman, Michael Lanza, said in an email. He said the city's coronavirus death tally does not break down who died at home versus who died in a hospital from the virus....

....

The FDNY says it responded to 2,192 cases of deaths at home between March 20th and April 5th, or about 130 a day, an almost 400 percent increase from the same time period last year. (In 2019, there were just 453 cardiac arrest calls where a patient died, according to the FDNY.) 

That number has been steadily increasing since March 30th, with 241 New Yorkers dying at home Sunday — more than the number of confirmed COVID-19 deaths that occurred citywide that day. On Monday night, the city reported 266 new deaths, suggesting the possibility of a 40% undercount of coronavirus-related deaths. 

 

Yep.

It will be interesting to see the numbers when we can crunch them. I suspect a lot of the missing STEMIs and sudden cardiac death cases are hanging out at home. When dudes like Matt Walsh make a tweet that are effectively saying "AHA, I KNEW IT!!!!! THEY'RE LYING!!!!", that's BS. That's just confirmation bias.

If a person has a heart attack in the setting of COVID-19, it's reasonable to consider the disease contributory and bullshit to flat out not. People with comorbidities and the elderly are much more likely to have a bad outcomes; we're all aware of that.

Test, test, test.

[ten ocho recon scout]

50 minutes ago, Lou said:

Make Wednesday Breakfast Burrito Day and I'm your man.

I think its more like silver dollar pancake day. 

All other days are the staple breakfast burrito days.

[Lou]

1 minute ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

I think its more like silver dollar pancake day. 

All other days are the staple breakfast burrito days.

and that's why you'll be the next governor of the great state of California.

[ten ocho recon scout]

2 minutes ago, Lou said:

and that's why you'll be the next governor of the great state of California.

This bear is replacing the current bear on the flag

[gotbeer]

47 minutes ago, m0nkey said:

If we keep everyone locked up so that people don't die from the virus, people are going to start dying from being poor.

Not if you live in Lol Angeles.  The homeless get to live in hotel rooms, while you go poor.

[gotbeer]

1 hour ago, red321 said:

It will be interesting, in large part because the mortality rate in NYC is significantly higher than previous averages and deaths officially tied to the virus do not account for the difference. There are probably a large number of people dying that aren't being counted as covid related, or indirectly related (couldn't get access to emergency services/healthcare due to Covid related cases overburdening the healthcare system).

This is a similar story to what is being told in Italy and Spain.

https://gothamist.com/news/surge-number-new-yorkers-dying-home-officials-suspect-undercount-covid-19-related-deaths

As of Monday afternoon, 2,738 New York City residents have died from ‘confirmed’ cases of COVID-19, according to the city Department of Health. That’s an average of 245 a day since the previous Monday. 

But another 200 city residents are now dying at home each day, compared to 20 to 25 such deaths before the pandemic, said Aja Worthy-Davis, a spokeswoman for the medical examiner’s office. And an untold number of them are unconfirmed. 

That’s because the ME’s office is not testing dead bodies for COVID-19. Instead, they’re referring suspected cases to the city’s health department as “probable.”

“If someone dies at home, and we go to the home and there [are] signs of influenza, our medical examiner may determine the cause of death was clearly an influenza-like illness, potentially COVID or an influenza-like illness believed to be COVID,” said Worthy-Davis. “We report all our deaths citywide to the health department, who releases that data to the public.” 

But the health department does not include that number in the official count unless it is confirmed, a spokesman said. 

“Every person with a lab confirmed COVID-19 diagnosis is counted in the number of fatalities,” the spokesman, Michael Lanza, said in an email. He said the city's coronavirus death tally does not break down who died at home versus who died in a hospital from the virus....

....

The FDNY says it responded to 2,192 cases of deaths at home between March 20th and April 5th, or about 130 a day, an almost 400 percent increase from the same time period last year. (In 2019, there were just 453 cardiac arrest calls where a patient died, according to the FDNY.) 

That number has been steadily increasing since March 30th, with 241 New Yorkers dying at home Sunday — more than the number of confirmed COVID-19 deaths that occurred citywide that day. On Monday night, the city reported 266 new deaths, suggesting the possibility of a 40% undercount of coronavirus-related deaths. 

 

 

Key words here.  Deaths at home.  The number of people who are home has increased significantly with quarantines.  So you should see the number of deaths at home increase, because that is where everyone is at.  And since people can't do anything but eat, sit on the couch, and drink.  That's another factor that will increase the number of cases.  

[red321]

7 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

 

Key words here.  Deaths at home.  The number of people who are home has increased significantly with quarantines.  So you should see the number of deaths at home increase, because that is where everyone is at.  And since people can't do anything but eat, sit on the couch, and drink.  That's another factor that will increase the number of cases.  

You are right, some of that would be accounted for by saying, John had a heart attack at home and not at Fat Freddy's while chowing down on a chili burger with wings and extra fries. Conversely you have less people dying from accidents because they aren't drunk in public walking across a busy street. You also have people who are ignoring going to the hospital for something that might be treatable (say a mild heart attack) because they are worried about going to the hospital.

What I expect you'll see is the number of deaths for this period will be significantly higher than the averages during this period and the official covid numbers won't account for that.

[red321]

wife is asking if she can sue her company because she's being sexually harassed by someone in her home office

[notherhalo]

I am annoyed that chicks are getting fatter

they should have closed down fast food and put a moratorium on carbs