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This might be unpopular but I think overall Eppler has done well

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6 minutes ago, beatlesrule said:

Jeff Luhnow.

Isn’t he that guy who just got banned from baseball forever? Oh wait, that’s still a few months away. Darn Eppler, if only he as willing to commit lifetime ban-worthy offenses to improve the team. What a schmuck. 

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13 minutes ago, beatlesrule said:

Jeff Luhnow.

Luhnow was hired in 2011.  Eppler was hired in 2015.  Eppler's record since his hiring is 306-342.  Luhnow's record is 657-639.  However, looking at Luhnow's first 4 seasons comparing his start with Eppler's, his record was 262-386.  In 2011, Luhnow inherited a farm system that was in the bottom 5.  In 2015, we all know the situation of the farm system Eppler inherited.  In 2011, Luhnow inherited a payroll ranked at #18 in MLB.  In 2015 Eppler inherited a payroll ranked at #7.

Luhnow could be a good comp but we need to wait a bit longer for a more accurate analysis.

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1 minute ago, eligrba said:

Luhnow was hired in 2011.  Eppler was hired in 2015.  Eppler's record since his hiring is 306-342.  Luhnow's record is 657-639.  However, looking at Luhnow's first 4 seasons comparing his start with Eppler's, his record was 262-386.  In 2011, Luhnow inherited a farm system that was in the bottom 5.  In 2015, we all know the situation of the farm system Eppler inherited.  In 2011, Luhnow inherited a payroll ranked at #18 in MLB.  In 2015 Eppler inherited a payroll ranked at #7.

Luhnow could be a good comp but we need to wait a bit longer for a more accurate analysis.

You asked for last 4 years. I gave you one example. I have more if you want.

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3 minutes ago, beatlesrule said:

You asked for last 4 years. I gave you one example. I have more if you want.

That is correct....I guess I should have been more specific. 

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2 hours ago, eligrba said:

Luhnow was hired in 2011.  Eppler was hired in 2015.  Eppler's record since his hiring is 306-342.  Luhnow's record is 657-639.  However, looking at Luhnow's first 4 seasons comparing his start with Eppler's, his record was 262-386.  In 2011, Luhnow inherited a farm system that was in the bottom 5.  In 2015, we all know the situation of the farm system Eppler inherited.  In 2011, Luhnow inherited a payroll ranked at #18 in MLB.  In 2015 Eppler inherited a payroll ranked at #7.

Luhnow could be a good comp but we need to wait a bit longer for a more accurate analysis.

Too much mental gymnastics. He answered the question, and you didn’t like the answer

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20 minutes ago, Φαήλος said:

Too much mental gymnastics. He answered the question, and you didn’t like the answer

ok

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On 12/30/2019 at 4:09 PM, nate said:

Not saying he is perfect, his biggest mistakes were hiring Ausmus and signing Cozart.

When you consider though how big of a mess the entire organization was when he took over, I think he has done well building the team up to be winners in the future.

Consider that he had the worst farm system, a team full of bloated salaries and no pitching depth.  He also had a stubborn manager that had clearly lost pace with modern baseball.  Consider that he wasn't drawn into huge bidding wars and overpays for pitchers that allowed the Angels to come into this offseason with a good amount of cash to spend, unfortunately the pitching was still way overpriced but I am happy with the direction of the team and also pleased that he hasn't emptied out the system with reactionary trades.

I really hope Eppler gets a couple more years but I am worried that if this season doesn't go well he is gone.

I have to disagree. You aren’t going to win signing a bunch of guys to one year contracts and where is the young pitching? There still is no catching in the organization. 
 

I would like to see an overhaul of the Scouting Department and give Eppler the June draft to bring in high upside pitching. 

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28 minutes ago, TroutCron said:

I have to disagree. You aren’t going to win signing a bunch of guys to one year contracts and where is the young pitching? There still is no catching in the organization. 
 

I would like to see an overhaul of the Scouting Department and give Eppler the June draft to bring in high upside pitching. 

Barria, Canning, Sandoval, Suarez, Buttrey, Middleton, Anderson and Jewell.   So half the staff is two years or less in the majors.  

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4 hours ago, Stradling said:

Barria, Canning, Sandoval, Suarez, Buttrey, Middleton, Anderson and Jewell.   So half the staff is two years or less in the majors.  

Staying on Eppler (5 of the 8 you list are Dipoto signings), Canning (2017 draft) was a good draft pick and maybe Aaron Hernandez (2018 draft) will develop into a quality starting pitcher. Sandoval and Buttrey were good trades. 

I could argue Eppler wifted in the 2016 draft on pitching choosing Thaiss and Noni Willams in 1st and 3rd rounds over say Dakota Hudson or Shane Bieber, but if CRod and/or Jose Soriano (signed by Eppler in March of 2016) develop into solid mid-rotation plus pitchers, it would make the draft/signings a strong one. Could be even better draft if Thaiss develops into solid 1B and Marsh as solid OF.

It's too early to judge 2017, 18 and 19 drafts for pitching. If Jack Kochanowicz develops into top of rotation arm, that alone would legitimize 2019 draft.

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The 2016 draft was run by the remnants of the 2015 staff.   Eppler brought his people in for the 2017 season.   

It's not like the scouts were out looking at players that fit Epplers criteria for a year before the draft, they basically had whatever info JDs people had and whatever players they chose to scout in the time they had between his winter hire and the June draft.  For some cold weather HS players it was about a month's worth of games.I

Thaiss was the epitome of high floor low ceiling...  

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26 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

The 2016 draft was run by the remnants of the 2015 staff.   Eppler brought his people in for the 2017 season.   

It's not like the scouts were out looking at players that fit Epplers criteria for a year before the draft, they basically had whatever info JDs people had and whatever players they chose to scout in the time they had between his winter hire and the June draft.  For some cold weather HS players it was about a month's worth of games.I

Thaiss was the epitome of high floor low ceiling...  

Eppler was hired October 1st so had plenty of time to become synched with existing staff and draft candidates.

Dakota Hudson pitched for Missisippi State and Shane Bieber for UCal Santa Barbara...not cold weather schools.

They both should have been on  Dipoto's staffs radar anyways as potential high draft  picks.

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6 minutes ago, ksangel said:

Eppler was hired October 1st so had plenty of time to become synched with existing staff and draft candidates.

Dakota Hudson pitched for Missisippi State and Shane Bieber for UCal Santa Barbara...not cold weather schools.

They both should have been on  Dipoto's staffs radar anyways as potential high draft  picks.

I’d probably take IP or Scotty’s Opinion on this considering their back ground.  Unless you’ve been to scout school or worked as a scout in the past.  If so I apologize. 

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5 hours ago, Stradling said:

Barria, Canning, Sandoval, Suarez, Buttrey, Middleton, Anderson and Jewell.   So half the staff is two years or less in the majors.  

that's all you got?

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6 hours ago, Stradling said:

Barria, Canning, Sandoval, Suarez, Buttrey, Middleton, Anderson and Jewell.   So half the staff is two years or less in the majors.  

Yeah, but other than them, where is the young pitching?

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1 hour ago, ksangel said:

Eppler was hired October 1st so had plenty of time to become synched with existing staff and draft candidates.

Dakota Hudson pitched for Missisippi State and Shane Bieber for UCal Santa Barbara  

Yep. He had 8 months. Plenty of time. I’ve confirmed this in the past with an old friend who was a scout for the Mariners.

Eppler chose Thaiss #16 not as a catcher but as a 1B with his first ever pick. The Dodgers chose Gavin Lux #20 and Will Smith #32.

These are the choices that affect a franchise in the long term

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