Ryu to Toronto 4/$80m

[beatlesrule]

23 minutes ago, Lou said:

or he knew more than a bunch of hysterical grown men on a message board.

Like he has these past 4 years?

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, beatlesrule said:

Like he has these past 4 years?

You really don’t get it.  

[Second Base]

All right, so I thought it over, and I don't think losing Ryu is the end of the world. Ryu probably would have been worth four wins, but if they trade for someone like David Price, he's probably worth two or three wins. So by my estimation, instead of being an 89 win team, it makes the Angels more of an 87 to 88 win team. It sucks, and might cost us the playoffs, but again not the end of the world. This should still be a pretty competitive team. Not as good as we hoped for, but still alright.

[Lou]

47 minutes ago, beatlesrule said:

Like he has these past 4 years?

you must not remember all of the players people here were begging for these past few years

[mulwin444]

1 hour ago, Lou said:

or he knew more than a bunch of hysterical grown men on a message board.

"grown"

[Lou]

17 minutes ago, mulwin444 said:

"grown"

yeah, that was one of those "benefit of the doubt" things

[Vegas Halo Fan]

And several people were scoffing when Toronto was mentioned as a contender for Ryu's services.

This is where we are. Pitchers had rather go to Canada than come here.

[Lou]

6 minutes ago, Vegas Halo Fan said:

And several people were scoffing when Toronto was mentioned as a contender for Ryu's services.

This is where we are. Pitchers had rather go to Canada than come here.

there are 80 million reasons why

[Revad]

I like it that they will compete.but Ryu should be an Angel

[Lhalo]

Just now, Lou said:

there are 80 million reasons why

But Mexican food ain't one.

[failos]

2 hours ago, Lou said:

what if the rotation pitches well? 

What if it doesn’t?

[Lou]

1 minute ago, failos said:

What if it doesn’t?

I asked first 

[Dick B Back]

Am I happy with the Angels starting staff? No, of course it could be better.

Am I happy the Angels didn’t sign Ryu? Yes, that contract has disaster written into the fine print.

[mulwin444]

9 minutes ago, Vegas Halo Fan said:

And several people were scoffing when Toronto was mentioned as a contender for Ryu's services.

This is where we are. Pitchers had rather go to Canada than come here.

Or, conversely, Toronto had to guarantee 4 years to a 33 year old pitcher who has topped 180 innings twice in his career (2013 and last season) and 2014 -2018 was a hodgepodge of lost years and DL visits.

We need a pitcher who can take the ball every 5/6th day and it makes sense we passed on Ryu.  Toronto is not even close to competing in 2020 so this move makes even less sense for them.

[failos]

5 minutes ago, Lou said:

I asked first 

But I asked second.

[failos]

10 minutes ago, Lou said:

there are 80 million reasons why

Apparently the angels didn’t make a formal offer to Ryu. Neither did the Doyers. So you are right

[Lou]

1 minute ago, failos said:

But I asked second.

third base 

[Vegas Halo Fan]

7 minutes ago, mulwin444 said:

Or, conversely, Toronto had to guarantee 4 years to a 33 year old pitcher who has topped 180 innings twice in his career (2013 and last season) and 2014 -2018 was a hodgepodge of lost years and DL visits.

We need a pitcher who can take the ball every 5/6th day and it makes sense we passed on Ryu.  Toronto is not even close to competing in 2020 so this move makes even less sense for them.

I didn't quite get it either. New York is the beast in that division, Boston is likely to rebound, and the Rays are always better than people believe that they will be. Toronto has a good strong core of legacy players, but Ryu doesn't suddenly put them in contention.

If it was going to take a four-year contract, I don't blame the Angels for bowing out of the talks.

[Lou]

Just now, failos said:

Apparently the angels didn’t make a formal offer to Ryu. Neither did the Doyers. So you are right

[zenmaster]

Keuchel was more of a possibility than Ryu in my opinion. I think we are staying away from guys with reliability issues at this point. 

[Jay]

5 minutes ago, zenmaster said:

Keuchel was more of a possibility than Ryu in my opinion. I think we are staying away from guys with reliability issues at this point. 

We are staying away from all guys at this point.

 

[failos]

31 minutes ago, Lou said:

third base 

Rendiggitydong

[VariousCrap]

Ryu was a serious health risk, so I understand the Angels not signing him, but they still need a front end of the rotation starter.

I think that Reddit dude with his Price prediction ends up coming true now, which I guess is better than nothing.

Edited December 23, 2019 by VariousCrap

[stormngt]

12 hours ago, Lou said:

and we're spending more than we did last year. 

and stop swearing at me. I'm sensitive.

I promise to wash my mouth out with soap.

 

[Angel Oracle]

51 minutes ago, Lou said:

third base 

Guess Who is on 1B.    Who?    2B     Yes?    3B