Chris Sale?

[UnrulyManBun27]

If the Red Sox are looking to shed salary, would it make sense to try and swing a trade for Sale? Is he too much of an injury risk? Too big a contract? What prospects would it take?

[failos]

No thanks

[Chuck]

I would rather have Chris Sale than David Price. 

[failos]

1 hour ago, Chuckster70 said:

I would rather have Chris Sale than David Price. 

absolutely but I’d rather get Keuchel

[Docwaukee]

5/145 left for age 31-35.  With a 20m vesting option based on cy young finish in the top ten for 2024.  

Stras got 100m more than that for a similar aged player and Sale is probably better.  BUT - is the arm healthy? 

I'd probably take on that contract if we didn't have to give anything up.   

[ten ocho recon scout]

1 hour ago, Chuckster70 said:

I would rather have Chris Sale than David Price. 

Depends on the price of sale. But, if we could get price on sale, that would be good, too.

[ten ocho recon scout]

^whoa

[CanadianHalo]

1 minute ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Depends on the price of sale. But, if we could get price on sale, that would be good, too.

[ten ocho recon scout]

1 minute ago, Dochalo said:

5/145 left for age 31-35.  With a 20m vesting option based on cy young finish in the top ten for 2024.  

Stras got 100m more than that for a similar aged player and Sale is probably better.  BUT - is the arm healthy? 

I'd probably take on that contract if we didn't have to give anything up.   

Didnt we just read hes trying PRP?

I think weve had enough guys like that...

[CanadianHalo]

3 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Didnt we just read hes trying PRP?

I think weve had enough guys like that...

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/bosoxinjection.com/2019/12/02/red-sox-ace-chris-sales-value-rise/amp/
 

Yep

[failos]

8 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Depends on the price of sale. But, if we could get price on sale, that would be good, too.

U da man

[ten ocho recon scout]

4 minutes ago, CanadianHalo said:

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/bosoxinjection.com/2019/12/02/red-sox-ace-chris-sales-value-rise/amp/
 

Yep

Yeah... that is stay away for sure vibes.

If we had a decent crop of reliable even mid rotation guys, it would maybe be worth the gamble. But hell no with the situation we're in.

[Second Base]

Twitter says teams have reached out regarding Sale, and the Red Sox were intrigued before shifting directions. They say he's healthy, FWIW. But they'd be selling low. 

[floplag]

Any of these "names" is going to cost, risk or no risk.
i am not 100% on any of them as being any better than whats out there in FA.  They "could" be better sure, but is that worth giving up a bunch of kids we might need or taking on way too much money and having no flexibility?
For Price we could get both MadBum and Kuechel i bet.
If there is one that might justify the risk its Kluber, as he was very consistent pre-injury.
We match up with them at least partially but is giving up Rengifo or Fletcher plus Marsh or Adams, plus a young arm worth having him for 2 years?  IF he comes back to pre-injury, maybe, if not hell no 

[Stradling]

I’m guessing everyone who talks about acquiring Price is under the impression that the Red Sox are eating a very good portion of his contract so he will cost less than the reported cost for Mad Bum.  Or they take the entire contract and they throw in a young useful player while getting little in return for him. No one thinks we should give up talent and take on his $96 million over 3 years. There’s too many other options, it’s a buyers market.  

[failos]

5 minutes ago, Stradling said:

I’m guessing everyone who talks about acquiring Price is under the impression that the Red Sox are eating a very good portion of his contract so he will cost less than the reported cost for Mad Bum.  Or they take the entire contract and they throw in a young useful player while getting little in return for him. No one thinks we should give up talent and take on his $96 million over 3 years. There’s too many other options, it’s a buyers market.  

This

[Pancake Bear]

22 minutes ago, floplag said:

Any of these "names" is going to cost, risk or no risk.
i am not 100% on any of them as being any better than whats out there in FA.  They "could" be better sure, but is that worth giving up a bunch of kids we might need or taking on way too much money and having no flexibility?
For Price we could get both MadBum and Kuechel i bet.
If there is one that might justify the risk its Kluber, as he was very consistent pre-injury.
We match up with them at least partially but is giving up Rengifo or Fletcher plus Marsh or Adams, plus a young arm worth having him for 2 years?  IF he comes back to pre-injury, maybe, if not hell no 

Madbum and Keuchel would be at least 35 (20 + 15) for 5 and 3 years. Price will be less. But I don’t know that he’s any better than either of them, and he sure isn’t younger. 

[floplag]

24 minutes ago, Sean-Regan said:

Madbum and Keuchel would be at least 35 (20 + 15) for 5 and 3 years. Price will be less. But I don’t know that he’s any better than either of them, and he sure isn’t younger. 

People forget, Bumgardner is still only 30.  Keuchel only 31.   I would rather pay for their 31-35 seasons than Prices 35-37 for the same money all day personally. 

[hangin n wangin]

4 minutes ago, floplag said:

People forget, Bumgardner is still only 30.  Keuchel only 31.   I would rather pay for their 31-35 seasons than Prices 35-37 for the same money all day personally. 

He’s only thirty, but he has a bunch of innings on his arm. He has started his decline already. He concerns me long term. I have always liked him though.

[Glen]

1 hour ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Depends on the price of sale. But, if we could get price on sale, that would be good, too.

I think that ship may have saled already.

[Lou]

1 minute ago, Glen said:

I think that ship may have saled already.

[floplag]

3 minutes ago, hangin n wangin said:

He’s only thirty, but he has a bunch of innings on his arm. He has started his decline already. He concerns me long term.

Granted, but Sale has nearly as many only about a season less, Price has far more.   Hell Verlander has a ton more.  
I dont think its that clear hes started anything.   This last season his K/9 and K/BB ratio and most peripherals were inline with norms.   His projections for 20 are pretty much better than anyone we have right now.  I think youre exaggerating his decline 

[nate]

1 hour ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

^whoa

You can't alley your own oop

[Lou]

10 minutes ago, RBM said:

It's 34-36 for Price not 35-37. You know that. Why do you do that?

Do you think it strengthens your point if you massage ages like a Dominican 17 year old at an open tryout?

Don't you realize people will notice?

he'll be 35 in August

[Docwaukee]

did you ask if he wants to massage a 17 year old dominican?