Boras and Adell

[Stradling]

Would any of you consider trading Adell for fair value, in my mind a front line starter or possibly one of the young studs from the Padres, simply to avoid the headache later with Boras being his agent?  I do not mean selling low on him, but rather fill a need with a pitcher you can build around going forward at the cost of Adell.  I will say that Adell certainly seems to be an outstanding human and this may not be anything to worry about.  Just curious what others think or if this has even been something that you have considered.  

[Lou]

No. 

[Amazing Larry]

Hard pass.

[Bronson]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

Would any of you consider trading Adell for fair value, in my mind a front line starter or possibly one of the young studs from the Padres, simply to avoid the headache later with Boras being his agent?  I do not mean selling low on him, but rather fill a need with a pitcher you can build around going forward at the cost of Adell.  I will say that Adell certainly seems to be an outstanding human and this may not be anything to worry about.  Just curious what others think or if this has even been something that you have considered.  

Walker Buehler. And the Dodgers won’t part with him. Any young pitcher that would make sense teams won’t part with so I don’t see a reasonable trade.

[Brandon]

I think letting Calhoun go was the torch being passed to Adell in RF. I think the team goes slow with him unless he tears up spring training. He's going to fill a position of need.

I'm also of the ilk that I'd rather have a guy that plays everyday versus getting rid of that guy for someone that plays once every five days. But pitching also wins games.

I'd have to see the package. I also say that mathematically speaking that most prospects don't pan out and to move them for proven talent. So it's an open, but I'd really have to win the trade.

[angelsnationtalk]

That "headache" wouldn't happen for maybe 6 years. 3 years for sure. Use him while we have Trout for his prime.

[T.G.]

10 minutes ago, Lou said:

No. 

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[Angels_Make_Me_Drink]

I would for a pitcher of equivalent value and years of control. So if it isn’t for one of the Padres young guys or Buehler, then no. 

[Stradling]

I can respect the no votes.  I am not usually someone who thinks like this, but I'm fairly frustrated right now.  

[Dick B Back]

9 minutes ago, Brandon said:

 

I'd have to see the package. 

@tdawg87?

[T.G.]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

I can respect the no votes.  I am not usually someone who thinks like this, but I'm fairly frustrated right now.  

We have bigger things to worry about... like will Arte raise the cost of parking now that he owns the stadium?

[Bronson]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

I can respect the no votes.  I am not usually someone who thinks like this, but I'm fairly frustrated right now.  

I think we all are. Billy and Arte have really ran themselves into a corner. It’ll be interesting how they try to fix it.

[floplag]

For the right guy that you could build around, yes of course i would its silly to say you wouldn't.   No prospect is untouchable in the right deal, period. 
That having been said if were talking straight up there are very very few that come to mind i might consider, the aforementioned Buehler for example. 

[Pancake Bear]

I get what you’re saying, and I don’t disagree with it. The problem is we need cheap talent. Payroll is still going to be a issue. I don’t see us making a trade with Adell that solves that problem.

[halomatt]

Yes

[Justin]

There is nothing that I would not consider (or rather, not want want the Angels to consider), including the trading of Adell. However, it would have to be for a different reason than not wanting to deal with Boras years from now. 

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, RBM said:

Jo Adell will be cost controlled for at least  6 years and likely 7 so I don't think Scott Boras is a factor in the process at this point.

correct however my thoughts were finding the Adell version of a pitcher where you have 5 plus years of control.  

[UndertheHalo]

This is a possible problem 6 or 7 years down the road.  Not going to worry about it. 
 

if there is some dramatic trade out there then sure I’ll listen.  Unlikely to go with it but I guess we’d have to see.  I still hold fast to the idea that we should not trade fielders for pitchers. 

[ten ocho recon scout]

1 hour ago, Bronson said:

Walker Buehler. And the Dodgers won’t part with him. Any young pitcher that would make sense teams won’t part with so I don’t see a reasonable trade.

@Stradling, i asked the same thing in another thread. Personally... Id be open to it. Just not sure what pitcher qualifies.

Walker would be the model. A young, effective frontline starter with years of control.

But like @Bronson says here, i doubt the dodgers would do that. Which those opposed to the idea should consider.

[kevinb]

No. People need to stop with this Boras is the devil shit. He literally does what his clients want. Weaver signed for less than market value and he was a Boras client. Boras is not the enemy he is the broker he is the agent. The client is the player. If you want to stop dealing with Boras fine, but he represents a lot of the best players in baseball and does a great job at it. Stop blaming Boras blame the player or the owner for not wanting to go the extra mile. 

[AngelsLakersFan]

Boras aside, I'd be skeptical of trading Adell for a young pitcher. Maybe I'm just affected by Dipoto's 'success' building a pitching staff through trades. Teams have a lot more data on their own pitchers than they do on others, so it's scary betting on a guy who's team is willing to let him go.

[Turd Ferguson]

Yes, I would consider trading Adell for a front line, controllable starter.

If we don't, I pray that we have to deal with Boras being a headache -- means that we got 6 pretty good years of Adell.

[Docwaukee]

So I was thinking that maybe maybe MacKenzie Gore and another prospect for Adell or Chris Paddack straight up.  

they're both Boras clients.  

[Dtwncbad]

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

Would any of you consider trading Adell for fair value, in my mind a front line starter or possibly one of the young studs from the Padres, simply to avoid the headache later with Boras being his agent?  I do not mean selling low on him, but rather fill a need with a pitcher you can build around going forward at the cost of Adell.  I will say that Adell certainly seems to be an outstanding human and this may not be anything to worry about.  Just curious what others think or if this has even been something that you have considered.  

I am asking similar question.  I fully understand not wanting to trade away a great young prospect, especially when the Angels have had so little in the minors for so long.

Everyone I think is a hard pass on trading Adell at the deadline for a rental, no matter who it is.

But I don’t get the hard “no” on trading him for a stud young pitcher when the team needs a controllable stud young pitcher more than it needs a controllable stud slugging outfielder.

I don’t get it.

Just don’t make the wrong deal.

[Kendo36]

After not signing Cole, trading Adell became even less desirable. We are not competing until 2022 if we are lucky. If we sign cole and could pair him with another ace then I would think about trading Adell.