Plan B: What do you think the best option for the Angels is now?

[Stradling]

3 minutes ago, failos said:

Forget Darvish

Darvish had a pretty good year.  Not crazy about it, but he is probably the best pitcher currently available.

[WeaverFever]

Did anyone see the Angels “new jerseys?” It is going to be hard to sell many without any changes to the roster or the uniforms. Especially when they cost $455. 

[Angels_Make_Me_Drink]

@Jeff Fletcher is going to be on MLB radio at 10:25 to explain where to go from here. 

[Stradling]

Just now, Chuckster70 said:

Like hell we're not. 

This team would be in a shitty spot to add anything else if we signed Cole for that price. I'm glad we didn't sign him. Good riddance. 

Yea, I still wanted him.  This one hurt.  As for your idea, even though Ryu is better, I’d probably go Keuchel because it is just the safer pick as far as health.

[UndertheHalo]

10 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

Thoughts?

I’m very leery on Bumgarner and Ryu.  Especially Bumgarner.  Not in your post Chuck but I’ve posted since last year about my hesitation with Donaldson I really, really dislike giving him multiple years. 
 

i think Darvish is interesting but I mean, he’s had his struggles.  If we can just eat the money and get him cheap (prospects wise) that has a lot of appeal.  I’m not sure about Contreras. I’d love to have him but I don’t know what we’d have to give up.  A lot I’d think.  Maybe eating all of Darvish contract offsets that ?  
 

Rendon to me completely makes or breaks the offseason.  If they fail to pull him down.  I’m sorry this is a disaster.  We’ll just have to try and make sure the offense is sick as hell. 

Edited December 11, 2019 by UndertheHalo

[UndertheHalo]

Darvish (if possible) and Keuchel seems ideal to me on the pitching front...Teheran also a decent possibility.  Maybe Combine that with Rendon.  I’ll feel better.  Not great but at least i can try to convince myself. 

Edited December 11, 2019 by UndertheHalo

[failos]

2 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Darvish had a pretty good year.  Not crazy about it, but he is probably the best pitcher currently available.

Keuchel would be a better pick-up imo. Darvish is too fragile and too wishy-washy

[TBailey]

Rendon, Contreras, Madbum, Keuchal, plus A bullpen piece in Batiences...

[Bronson]

2 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

I’m very leery on Ryu.  Especially Ryu.  Not in that post but I’ve posted since last year about hesitation with Donaldson and I also really, really don’t like a big contract for the Bum.  
 

i think Darvish is interesting but I mean, he’s had his struggles.  If we can just eat the money and get him cheap (prospects wise) that has a lot of appeal.  I’m not sure about Contreras. I’d love to have him but I don’t know what we’d have to give up.  A lot I’d think.  Maybe eating all of Darvish contract offsets that ?  
 

Rendon to me completely makes or breaks the offseason.  If they fail to pull him down.  I’m sorry this is a disaster.  We’ll just have to try and make sure the offense is sick as hell. 

This x1000. Rendon is a MUST GET now. 

[Chuck]

4 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Darvish had a pretty good year.  Not crazy about it, but he is probably the best pitcher currently available.

Darvish was recovering from injury in the first half, but boy did he get to full strength by mid-season. Check out his first/second half splits and overall numbers. 

 

[ScottT]

Rendon

Ryu 

Trade for a SP.   Use Fletcher, minor leaguer(s) not named Adell or Marsh (though I'd budge on that depending on who the pitcher is)

That probably nets more wins than Cole alone.

[tdawg87]

6 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

Like hell we're not. 

This team would be in a shitty spot to add anything else if we signed Cole for that price. I'm glad we didn't sign him. Good riddance. 

Lol

[rottiesworld]

5 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

I’m very leery on Ryu.  Especially Ryu.  Not in that post but I’ve posted since last year about hesitation with Donaldson and I also really, really don’t like a big contract for the Bum.  
 

i think Darvish is interesting but I mean, he’s had his struggles.  If we can just eat the money and get him cheap (prospects wise) that has a lot of appeal.  I’m not sure about Contreras. I’d love to have him but I don’t know what we’d have to give up.  A lot I’d think.  Maybe eating all of Darvish contract offsets that ?  
 

Rendon to me completely makes or breaks the offseason.  If they fail to pull him down.  I’m sorry this is a disaster.  We’ll just have to try and make sure the offense is sick as hell. 

It has been a disaster for how many years now? The only positive we have had is Trout.

[Stradling]

2 minutes ago, failos said:

Keuchel would be a better pick-up imo. Darvish is too fragile and too wishy-washy

Get both.

[Don]

2 minutes ago, ScottT said:

Rendon

Ryu 

Trade for a SP.   Use Fletcher, minor leaguer(s) not named Adell or Marsh (though I'd budge on that depending on who the pitcher is)

That probably nets more wins than Cole alone.

Pretty much my thoughts. Ryu, if healthy, is a top five SP IMO.

[failos]

Just now, Stradling said:

Get both.

It would be ideal at this point, no doubt.

[UndertheHalo]

God I have to stop trying to put together several thoughts at once as I put these posts together. 

[CanadianHalo]

You ONLY trade for Darvish if Contreras comes with

[Stradling]

Just now, CanadianHalo said:

You ONLY trade for Darvish if Contreras comes with

That works for me.  So what does that deal look like?  Do you eat all of the contract?  If you do can you do that deal without killing the farm because of the money owed and they are looking to shed payroll?

[Angels_Make_Me_Drink]

Contreras is going to cost and arm and a leg. The Padres were poking around but pulled back because the demand was through the roof. We can’t afford that. 
 

I didn’t realize how solid Darvish was in the 2nd half. Go get that man. 

[Chuck]

1 minute ago, CanadianHalo said:

You ONLY trade for Darvish if Contreras comes with

Agreed. Otherwise you're giving up Marsh or Adell. 

 

[UndertheHalo]

Just now, Don said:

Pretty much my thoughts. Ryu, if healthy, is a top five SP.

No he’s not.  I really don’t think this is the case.  The dodgers work magic constantly, serious doubts until proven otherwise that the Angels can get the same type of performance out of him.  He’s a solid pitcher but he’s not top 5 or top 10 frankly.  He’s not that young and he has significant injury risk.  I can take him or leave him. 

[Chuck]

Just now, Angels_Make_Me_Drink said:

Contreras is going to cost and arm and a leg. The Padres were poking around but pulled back because the demand was through the roof. We can’t afford that. 
 

I didn’t realize how solid Darvish was in the 2nd half. Go get that man. 

Darvish was every bit as good as Cole in the second half of last season.

[Mark68]

Fuck it. Rendon, Ryu, MadBum, Castro, and then trade all non-Adell Rondons for Jon Gray/Robbie Ray/Kluber/Clevinger. 

Fuck Cole.

[Pancake Bear]

9 minutes ago, Angels_Make_Me_Drink said:

@Jeff Fletcher is going to be on MLB radio at 10:25 to explain where to go from here. 

There is nowhere to go from here. Arte and Eppler just got kicked in the balls. Best case until 2022 is sneaking into the Wild Card and probably losing it.