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Mike Moustakas signs with the Reds (4 years, $64 million)

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Good money spent by the Reds as they needed a legit power bat in that lineup and fill a 2B hole. The Reds rotation is stacked, but they wanted to add some offense. They're going to give the NL Central teams a run for their money, or should Insay division. 

Just like it will be good money spent by the Angels if they go all in on starting pitching.

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31 minutes ago, Troll Daddy said:

Did the Angels make a run at Moose a couple years ago? I heard that on MLB Network ... couldn’t get it done so signed Cozart instead 😠 

Boras is his agent and the Halos probably didn’t want to pay for what he was asking for Moose at the time.

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1 hour ago, Troll Daddy said:

So the Boras effect ... caused Eppler to throw away $38M on Cozart

Moustakas is nothing for us to worry about missing out on. We can easily make up for his production in the aggregate with Fletcher, La Stella, Rengifo and Cozart. 

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19 minutes ago, Calzone 2 said:

Moustakas is nothing for us to worry about missing out on. We can easily make up for his production in the aggregate with Fletcher, La Stella, Rengifo and Cozart. 

Yep. 

Moustakas fWAR in 2019: 2.8

Fletcher, La Stella, Rengifo, Cozart fWAR in 2019: 5.7

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Third Base Blind Player Comparison for Last Three Seasons (2017-2019):

Player A: 106 wRC+, UZR/150 of 6.2

Player B: 110 wRC+, UZR/150 of -3.1

 

Which one would you take?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Player B is Mike Moustakas

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Player A is Travis Shaw

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12 hours ago, Troll Daddy said:

So the Boras effect ... caused Eppler to throw away $38M on Cozart

Cozart had a 114 OPS+ (park adjusted) and had averaged 3 fWAR in the 3 years before the Angels signed him.

He dove for a ball and landed wrong on his shoulder. 

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27 minutes ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

Cozart had a 114 OPS+ (park adjusted) and had averaged 3 fWAR in the 3 years before the Angels signed him.

He dove for a ball and landed wrong on his shoulder. 

That 3 year average is obviously heavily influenced by the extreme outlier year of 2017. 

EDIT: From 2014-2016, his OPS+ was 81 and he averaged 1.5 fWAR. 

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51 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

That 3 year average is obviously heavily influenced by the extreme outlier year of 2017. 

EDIT: From 2014-2016, his OPS+ was 81 and he averaged 1.5 fWAR. 

Well, 2017 actually happened. It wasn’t just a hot month. It was a whole season. And it counts. If you think that doesn’t count for someone’s value heading into free agency, I don’t know what to tell you. 
 

Shall we look up Gerrit Cole’s 2015-17 and try to sign him based on that? Or even his 2016-18?

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2 minutes ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

Well, 2017 actually happened. It wasn’t just a hot month. It was a whole season. And it counts. If you think that doesn’t count for someone’s value heading into free agency, I don’t know what to tell you. 
 

Shall we look up Gerrit Cole’s 2015-17 and try to sign him based on that? Or even his 2016-18?

You're the one who gave a 3-year average.  My point is that it's skewed by an outlier year.  If teams are basing their decisions on an outlier year, more often than not, they're going to be disappointed.

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9 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

You're the one who gave a 3-year average.  My point is that it's skewed by an outlier year.  If teams are basing their decisions on an outlier year, more often than not, they're going to be disappointed.

A 3-year average is a pretty standard industry window to use to measure a players value. And I think his salary was adjusted based on it being an outlier. If he had a 140 OPS for all 3 years he’d have gotten $20M instead of $13M. 
 

(Edit: Zack Wheeler says hello.)

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43 minutes ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

A 3-year average is a pretty standard industry window to use to measure a players value. 
 

Zack Cozart - 3 year averages for games played.

2012 to 2014 - 145 games played

2015 to 2017 - 98 games played

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7 hours ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

Cozart had a 114 OPS+ (park adjusted) and had averaged 3 fWAR in the 3 years before the Angels signed him.

He dove for a ball and landed wrong on his shoulder. 

Any new updates on his shoulder ... will he be ready for Spring Training?

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5 hours ago, RBM said:

Zack Cozart - 3 year averages for games played.

2012 to 2014 - 145 games played

2015 to 2017 - 98 games played

Cozart was always a risky signing for Eppler. You can't spin it otherwise two years later.

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