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Astros accused of high-tech sign-stealing scheme during 2017 championship season


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On 11/14/2019 at 7:29 AM, yk9001 said:

Guys, try to use your brains.

Success (or failure) at the plate is not the determining factor if they cheated.  They could have bad swings, bad luck, etc.

We see/hear clear evidence of different sounds based on a pitch selection, the sound coming at the same time every time.  That is evidence of cheating.  

Not if they did or didn't get 2 hits in a particular game.

Yes and it would have been equally cool if you understood sarcasm.  

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6 hours ago, Calzone 2 said:

It shouldn’t be lost. It needs to be put back on the front page. Drug and Alcohol abuse, domestic violence and cheating in professional sports all need to be dealt with swiftly. 

So they are a microcosm of society?  Who would have thought.

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/columnist/bob-nightengale/2019/11/14/astros-cheating-sign-stealing-mlb-houston/4193684002/

”There may be 30 different agendas at these meetings, but this time, virtually all were united on one front.

They want to see the Astros go down. And go down hard.

They want the Astros to pay a fortune in penalties, being fined a record amount of money, forfeiting draft picks, international signing bonuses, and two even told USA TODAY Sports they wish MLB would force them to vacate the 2017 World Series title.”

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8 minutes ago, True Grich said:

This is becoming monumental. What an epic disaster. The impact is crazy.

I was initially skeptical of how far this might go. Two things make me think I initially underestimated it:

- The fact that they were allegedly doing it in the World Series (as well as since then).

That matters because it extends after the sort of amnesty near the end of the 2017 regular season when Manfred warned stricter punishment was coming if they continued. 

- The fact that the GM's off-the-record are so upset about this. 

These aren't random fanboys online who are completely unrealistic about punishment. 

It's going to be a very interesting offseason.

 

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2 hours ago, Sean-Regan said:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/columnist/bob-nightengale/2019/11/14/astros-cheating-sign-stealing-mlb-houston/4193684002/

”There may be 30 different agendas at these meetings, but this time, virtually all were united on one front.

They want to see the Astros go down. And go down hard."

Sounds like something youd read on a movie poster, under the title.

Regular or porno.

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9 hours ago, Blarg said:

I'm pretty sure Manfred will lynch Hinch for this. It's the easiest solution to disband the coaching staff than try to discipline players scattered around the league. I'm not sure this and the reporter harrasment scandal is enough to force a franchise sale but that is also on the table. These guys don't really own the team, they own a fanchise and at the favor of MLB. 

Between the reporter scandal, the absolute upset to the Nats, and now this, its pretty crazy how bad things got for that franchise so quickly after the altuve walkoff.

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On 11/13/2019 at 11:37 PM, Sean-Regan said:

Carlos Beltran did. Said they stole signs from 2B. No cameras. 

At this point I'm hoping all these videos are doctored because if they aren't then Beltran may be the first manager ever suspended before actually managing a game ...  which might actually be the most Mets thing ever...

This one is brutal..

 

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