Astros accused of high-tech sign-stealing scheme during 2017 championship season

[ten ocho recon scout]

9 minutes ago, Sean-Regan said:

 

"Shooting at the walls of heartache, CURVE BALL"....

[ukyah]

18 hours ago, Randy Gradishar said:

Well that's not true.

i knew someone would post this, but it is true. if you don't use technology to card count, then you've broken no laws. the casino can refuse to offer you the game, but you haven't cheated, they just don't want to play with you.

[ukyah]

i think this will be pretty severe because opposing players and organizations will be pissed. this isn't using pine tar for safety.

[Blarg]

3 hours ago, Taylor said:

In all seriousness, what kind of punishment can we expect for the Astros? I'm betting they just get fined and a slap on the wrist.

For one next year their record at home is going to suffer. 

[Blarg]

49 minutes ago, Sean-Regan said:

 

[JarsOfClay]

https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/comments/dvijpa/astros_claimed_to_not_use_their_sign_stealing/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x

This pretty much confirms the astros cheated during the 2017 world series. You can hear the whistling when a breaking ball is coming and no whistle when a fastball is coming. The yankees complained about this but no one really took them seriously. AJ Hinch laughed it off and said it was ridiculous. What an ahole.

[JarsOfClay]

I hate the dodgers, but they were really screwed over in 2017.

 

[Stradling]

They sucked at cheating in game 4 of 2017.  They had two hits.  

[Pancake Bear]

12 minutes ago, Stradling said:

They sucked at cheating in game 4 of 2017.  They had two hits.  

I think I read that the system started during the year. Someone was struggling and got the ball rolling. Supposedly a vet player who was struggling at the plate early in the season and got the idea from his former team. People speculating it was Beltran. 

[Tank]

Wonder how well the Astros played in Oakland with that incessant drumming thy always have.

[Yellow Balloon]

1 hour ago, Sean-Regan said:

 

Not to nitpick but lulz at Keith Law for not knowing who T-Rex , R.E.M., and Quiet Riot are.  And for getting at least two of the titles wrong.  

[Claude]

I no longer believe that pitchers tip pitches. 

[Pancake Bear]

15 minutes ago, JarsOfClay said:

I hope he wins.

You’re in the wrong forum. Garbage in, garbage out. 

[Pancake Bear]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/mlb/sign-stealing-in-the-world-series-the-nationals-had-a-plan-just-in-case/2019/11/13/f8bdce7a-0640-11ea-8292-c46ee8cb3dce_story.html

Okay, the Nats’ anti-sign-stealing strategy is seriously badass. 

[tdawg87]

2 hours ago, Stradling said:

They sucked at cheating in game 4 of 2017.  They had two hits.  

Ok, Lou.

[Jay]

Regarding penalties I would not be opposed to lifetime bans being handed down to Astros management who knew this was going on.

 

[Lou]

3 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

Ok, Lou.

huh?

[the dude abides]

3 minutes ago, Jay said:

Regarding penalties I would not be opposed to lifetime bans being handed down to Astros management who knew this was going on.

 

Luhnow and Hinch.  Absolutely 

[tdawg87]

1 minute ago, Lou said:

huh?

I agree.

[Lou]

11 hours ago, yk9001 said:

I hope this statement from the Astros has a little more stringent quality control than the last time.

well, so much for that . . .

 

On Tuesday, Houston Astros general manager Jeff Luhnow addressed allegations that his team used technology to illegally steal signs during the 2017 season.

While Luhnow admitted that the Astros "haven't done everything properly," he insisted that the team has attempted to stay within the guidelines of the game.

"I think that when an organization has success, there's going to naturally be critics trying to figure out things that might not be right, or things that the organization may have not done properly," Luhnow told reporters at the GM meetings in Arizona, according to Chandler Rome of the Houston Chronicle.

"We haven't done everything properly, but I do feel confident that in general, most of the time, we did things right and we try and follow the rules. We try to be good citizens and we try to compete as hard as we can."

The Astros are being accused of stealing signals through the use of a center-field camera at Minute Maid Park by several people who were with the team during the 2017 campaign. 

[the dude abides]

Have any players, current or past, denied the allegations?  

[Pancake Bear]

5 minutes ago, the dude abides said:

Have any players, current or past, denied the allegations?  

Carlos Beltran did. Said they stole signs from 2B. No cameras. 

[Chuck]

10 hours ago, the dude abides said:

Houston Asterisks.

 

Post of the day. 

Well done, @the dude abides!

[Inside Pitch]

18 minutes ago, Sean-Regan said:

Carlos Beltran did. Said they stole signs from 2B. No cameras. 

When you play MLB for 20 years and don't get a ring until year 20 -- you say whatever you have to in order to keep it .... I guess.

[Troll Daddy]

They must of gotten their signals crossed up this year ... 0-4 at home