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I think they need to sign a marquee starter and upside starter and a catcher and maybe a relief arm, maybe make a trade to clear Cozart’s salary and get something more useful to this team in return. It’s gonna be a hectic offseason that’s for sure.

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2 minutes ago, Hubs said:

I think they need to sign a marquee starter and upside starter and a catcher and maybe a relief arm, maybe make a trade to clear Cozart’s salary and get something more useful to this team in return. It’s gonna be a hectic offseason that’s for sure.

Best case, Cozart will be released or on the IL. He has negative value. He won’t be traded unless they’re paying someone to take him and eating 90% of his salary, and he won’t be playing for us. 

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3 hours ago, Sean-Regan said:

Best case, Cozart will be released or on the IL. He has negative value. He won’t be traded unless they’re paying someone to take him and eating 90% of his salary, and he won’t be playing for us. 

I am really glad you’re not the GM. Trading most of his salary to a Infield needy team in exchange for a bad contract that serves the Angels needs is totally possible 

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1 hour ago, Hubs said:

I am really glad you’re not the GM. Trading most of his salary to a Infield needy team in exchange for a bad contract that serves the Angels needs is totally possible 

It really isn’t. His body is done. This is all but certain. No one needs an infielder bad enough to trade an actual asset for one without a working shoulder.

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15 hours ago, Sean-Regan said:

It really isn’t. His body is done. This is all but certain. No one needs an infielder bad enough to trade an actual asset for one without a working shoulder.

But teams need salary relief on multi-year deals. They could've included him in say a trade for Greinke last year, instead of cash. Don't be a jerk. His value has certainly diminished, but there are definitely needy teams out there with their own bad contracts to trade.

For instance, I'd bet he, and a prospect of some regard, plus maybe a few million in cash could get us Jordan Zimmerman or Jeff Samardizja. That translates then to maybe $10M in new money, versus $18 or 20. And it's a short committment.

No one thought Cron was worth anything and he netted us Rengifo. Same for Hank Conger (Tropeano, Perez) or for Maldonado (Sandoval).

 

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1 hour ago, Hubs said:

But teams need salary relief on multi-year deals. They could've included him in say a trade for Greinke last year, instead of cash. Don't be a jerk. His value has certainly diminished, but there are definitely needy teams out there with their own bad contracts to trade.

For instance, I'd bet he, and a prospect of some regard, plus maybe a few million in cash could get us Jordan Zimmerman or Jeff Samardizja. That translates then to maybe $10M in new money, versus $18 or 20. And it's a short committment.

No one thought Cron was worth anything and he netted us Rengifo. Same for Hank Conger (Tropeano, Perez) or for Maldonado (Sandoval).

 

You’re comparing Cron to Cozart? 

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1 hour ago, Hubs said:

In the fact that everyone thought he was worthless when he was traded. Yes. 

he wasn't owed a big pot of money.  the only chance they have of moving cozart is sometime in spring if he shows up and can actually still play.  Think about how bad the other player would have to be or how much money they'd have to be owed in order to justify taking on Cozart.  It's probably less paperwork just to include cash.  He also sucked before he got hurt btw.  

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44 minutes ago, Hubs said:

I'm not saying it's likely, but if they were to say make a move for a pitcher under long term contract at big money, Cozart would absolutely be in the return. Like David Price, or someone like that.

 

Price is unmovable at present. Unless of course Boston just decided to eat the majority of the contract. Don’t see that happening. 

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