Gameday Thread: Nationals vs. Astros - World Series Game 7

[Blarg]

17 minutes ago, RBM said:

Yeah, he said it didn’t matter that AJ Hinch pulled Greinke out and Hendrick hit the HR because the Nats scored more runs later. That’s bad math. 

If he left Greinke in the game, which most people think he should have, the Nats may have not scored any runs. And the Astros may be WS Champs.

AJ Hinch owns this. 

The Astros did not score from the 5th inning on. The law of averages say they are more likely to lose their 2-1 lead than hold it consider past events as recently as last night. 

So, yeah, bad math. 

[Docwaukee]

3 minutes ago, Lou said:

I know 

maybe

[Blarg]

3 minutes ago, RBM said:

So you think it was a good move to take Greinke out of the game in the 7th? Is that what you would have done?

If I had the data Hinch had to back up the move, yes. 

You see, you are talking out of class on a subject you are ill informed of. 

[Lou]

if it makes you guys feel any better, I think all of you are idiots.

You're welcome

[ScottT]

 

[Docwaukee]

2 minutes ago, Lou said:

if it makes you guys feel any better, I think all of you are idiots.

You're welcome

since I already knew that, doesn't that make me not an idiot?  HA!

[Blarg]

Just now, RBM said:

What data?

The Astros use the most data of any team. Hinch has access to everything at his fingertips to determine if Grienke is fading, or unable to continue without risking more runs than he already allowed considering the opponent.

Couple that with his personal interaction with Grienke, along with his pitching coach, they were the most qualified to determine when to make a change. Unlike you, or me for that matter.

 

[Lou]

2 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

since I already knew that, doesn't that make me not an idiot?  HA!

maybe 

[Inside Pitch]

21 minutes ago, Lou said:

I know 

I agree

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

Now that the WS is over we can get down to real business of rebuilding our rotation for 2020. We will very soon know if Strasburg will opt out. Which players will be released and whether Kole's option will be exercised or not (I think not). We will find out who wins the MVP.

Eppler has his work cut out for him if he expects to keep his job next season. Ohtani will finish his rehab from TJ in the next month or so, hopefully with no set backs. Trout may to help convince a few pitchers to put on an Angel uniform next season, hopefully.

Good times ahead.

Edited October 31, 2019 by Ace-Of-Diamonds

[Blarg]

3 minutes ago, RBM said:

So, would you have replaced Greinke for Harris in the 7th inning tonight?

I don't have the data or in dugout experience to make that decision. Neither do you. So you can flap your gums about what a horrible decision it was but in fact that home run was about 5 feet from being a foul ball. Sometimes you can't out manage luck. 

[Lou]

i like Howie 

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

1 minute ago, Blarg said:

I don't have the data or in dugout experience to make that decision. Neither do you. So you can flap your gums about what a horrible decision it was but in fact that home run was about 5 feet from being a foul ball. Sometimes you can't out manage luck. 

It hit the fall poll so it less the 2 feet from being foul, also moor 5 feet to the right from being incredibly fair.

[Billy_Ball]

 

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

2 hours ago, Duren, Duren said:

Hader could have eliminated this entire story. Instead. A foreshadowing of things to come. 

Washington will seriously decline but so what? The franchise can coast a decade without criticism. Lots of hilite footage to look back on for their fans.

Hopefully the Astros will decline a bit next season as well without Cole and possibly Miley leaving for FA. Also Verlander and Grienke with a year older.

Edited October 31, 2019 by Ace-Of-Diamonds

[Blarg]

5 minutes ago, RBM said:

What would you have done?

Maybe you're not clear here. Not my team, not my call.

Congrats Howie Kendrick for finally getting that ring he should have gotten playing for the Angels. 

[ScottT]

Just now, Ace-Of-Diamonds said:

Hopefully the Astros will decline a bit next season as well without and possibly Miley leaving for FA. Also Verlander and Grienke with a year older.

I don't think they'll win 107 games 

[Blarg]

Okay, it appears you don't get it so I'll let you argue with yourself that your game plan would have won the world series. 

[Lou]

1 minute ago, RBM said:

So, would you have pulled Greinke in the 7th inning?

no 

[Blarg]

The end of the 6th?

[Lou]

4 minutes ago, Blarg said:

The end of the 6th?

no

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

4 hours ago, ScottT said:

I don't think they'll win 107 games 

l hope they win less than 90 games

[Angel Oracle]

Nats relievers: 4 innings, 2 baserunners

Asstros relievers: 2.2 innings, TEN baserunners

AJ Gump: twiddling his thumbs while Cole warmed up in the pen.

Cole: I’m done with Houston.

[yk9001]

9 hours ago, Dochalo said:

I don't have a problem with taking Greinke out as much as I do not bringing Cole in.  

 

8 hours ago, RBM said:

First, calling me an idiot for questioning your view is bullshit. I don’t think you are an idiot. 

Secondly, what happened after the 7th inning does not justify the mistake AJ Hinch made in the 7th inning.

I really don't know why you cannot grasp the timeline. 

Heard in every world series since I've been alive:

"Hey, you know that one thing the manager did, that didn't work?

He should have done the other thing."

[yk9001]

I turned it on at the top of the 7th.

That was a super fun game.

The Nats seem like good guys.  I am glad the good guys won.