Gameday Thread: Nationals vs. Astros - World Series Game 7

[fan_since79]

2 minutes ago, bloodbrother said:

Congrats to the Dodgers for extending their unbelievable streak of being the doormat to the eventual WS champs for a 4th straight year!

Fun fact of the year!

[Jay]

Yep, once again the WS championship goes through LA

like shit through a goose...

 

[Docwaukee]

congrats to Howie.  that's great for him.  

can't believe Cole got left on the bench.  wow.  

[the dude abides]

12 minutes ago, Jay said:

ah, you live in Houston.

Sorry your home team lost.

 

Thanks.  I’m devastated.

[ten ocho recon scout]

16 minutes ago, fan_since79 said:

GM gives shout out to his 90-yr old dad and the Nats' 94-yr old owner.

Let's hear it for old guys!

Even if the old guys cant hear it themselves?

[the dude abides]

WSWRBI for Howie.

[Lou]

surprised to learn that Strasburg is the first WS MVP who was the #1 pick of the MLB  draft. 

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

15 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

Strasburg should jump in the car and start doing donuts on the field.

What a great car. The All Star game MVP got to choose between a Truck or a camaro.

[Kenny]

9 minutes ago, bloodbrother said:

Congrats to the Dodgers for extending their unbelievable streak of being the doormat to the eventual WS champs for a 4th straight year!

A Dodger fan told me that the Angels are wasting Trout.  I told him the Dodgers wasted Kershaw.  He then whined about the Dodger making the playoffs all the time.

[Blarg]

2 minutes ago, the dude abides said:

WSWRBI for Howie.

He put the dagger in the Dodgers dreams and now shanked the Astros. Not bad for a guy people complained wasn't a batting champion. 

[ten ocho recon scout]

Postgame show... olney just pointed out after this, the mariners are the only team to never make a world series.

When asked is there hope for them, he replied "...... no."  

[gotbeer]

2 minutes ago, Kenny said:

A Dodger fan told me that the Angels are wasting Trout.  I told him the Dodgers wasted Kershaw.  He then whined about the Dodger making the playoffs all the time.

Just tell him at least the Angels don't always lose the last game of every season.

[Halokingfish]

Baby Shark for Bryce

[Claude]

[Lou]

10 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Postgame show... olney just pointed out after this, the mariners are the only team to never make a world series.

When asked is there hope for them, he replied "...... no."  

ah crap. does this mean I have to like Buster now? 

[Docwaukee]

thanks to Hinch for  preserving Cole's arm.  

[Docwaukee]

I don't have a problem with taking Greinke out as much as I do not bringing Cole in.  

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

32 minutes ago, Stradling said:

I love how personal accountability just goes out the window with takes like this Chuck.  He had a 7 ERA in spring.  He was signed late and made it until a week left in the spring.  While he was here he wasn’t good.  

Not unlike Ohtani's first spring training, glad we didn't cut him... Kidding

[Blarg]

2 minutes ago, RBM said:

Really? I think if AJ Hinch leaves Greinke in the Astros win the WS. It was a fatal decision. It will haunt him. 

Even if you remove Kendrick's home run Astros still lose 4-2. 

[Docwaukee]

Just now, RBM said:

Really?

No.

You don’t know that.

If Greinke stays in the game and gets Howie out in the 7th he could of had a complete game victory.

It’s unintelligent for you to not understand that. 

you don't know your scenario either.  Greinke struggles the third tie through and that was apparent.  Taking him out is defensible.  

putting in Harris was questionable at best.  

throwing Kendrick a fastball was stupid.  

[Docwaukee]

 

3 minutes ago, RBM said:

Yes. This is my point. 100%

 @Blarg Can’t extrapolate an alternative outcome based on a bad decision. For him to do the silly math after Greinke is removed is ridiculous. 

His is an example of poor logic applied after an outcome.

25 minutes ago, RBM said:

Really? I think if AJ Hinch leaves Greinke in the Astros win the WS. It was a fatal decision. It will haunt him. 

what?  

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

54 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Even if you remove Kendrick's home run Astros still lose 4-2. 

If Howie didn't hit the HR any number things could have happened differently. It's unknowable as to what might have been.

[Blarg]

41 minutes ago, RBM said:

Really?

No.

You don’t know that.

If Greinke stays in the game and gets Howie out in the 7th he could of had a complete game 2-1 victory.

It’s unintelligent for you to not understand that. 

I get that you are an idiot but you really shouldn't try so hard to prove it.

Greinke was already at 80 pitches and Rendon had launched a Homer off him and followed that by walking Soto. He could easily have given up even more runs before reaching his pitch limit.

Regardless, the Nationals scored three more runs in the following two innings and the Astros did not respond. The fact they couldn't push across one more insurance run says more about their eventual failure than you pretending Grienke would have survived the 7th and had any more left in the tank for the following two. 

Harris had less to do with the Astros loss as for their offense that scored all of 4 runs in two games. That is where the blame lies for this loss. 

[Docwaukee]

7 minutes ago, RBM said:

Yeah, he said it didn’t matter that AJ Hinch pulled Greinke out and Hendrick hit the HR because the Nats scored more runs later. That’s bad math. 

If he left Greinke in the game, which most people think he should have, the Nats may have not scored any runs. And the Astros may be WS Champs.

AJ Hinch owns this. 

an if, a should, and two mays.  

AJ was complicit in the bad outcome.  we have no idea what would have happened with different moves.  

my biggest problem was with leaving the best pitcher in baseball on the bench in game 7 of the WS.  I've seen Greinke struggle third time through.  Pulling Greinke was a reasonable move.  Not putting in Cole wasn't.  Whether it changes the outcome or not, we'll never know.  

[Lou]

I know