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Third starter or legit upgrade at catcher?

A third starter or a legit upgrade at catcher?   

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McCann retired.

But it is a good point: there are a half dozen or so decent catchers available. But I don't think it is a choice between a third starter and what kind of catcher, but how good of a second starter and catcher.

So it might be:

Cole, Odorizzi/Hamels, Grandal or 

Cole, Wheeler, Castro/d'Arnaud/Avila/Cervelli/Chirinos

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3 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

McCann retired.

But it is a good point: there are a half dozen or so decent catchers available. But I don't think it is a choice between a third starter and what kind of catcher, but how good of a second starter and catcher.

So it might be:

Cole, Odorizzi/Hamels, Grandal or 

Cole, Wheeler, Castro/d'Arnaud/Avila/Cervelli/Chirinos

James McCann with the White Sox. He has one more year of control. The White Sox have Zack Collins, their #10th overall pick from 2016, ready to take his spot in the majors.

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Just now, Blarg said:

The Angels have enough pitching depth that a third starter would not only be redundant but no better than what we have considering the budget allotment. Without a quality catcher there is no pitching upgrade. 

that's how I feel.  there's a huge potential upgrade at catcher yet what we could afford as the 3rd pitcher relative to what we've already got doesn't seem as big of a delta to me.  

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3 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

who was the guy who used to make the stick man cartoons for AW?  those were hilarious.  

Good question, I feel like I have found many on my internet travels over the years... Heck I even made a few in the days before this message board. So who knows? 

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51 minutes ago, Stradling said:

How bout Shoemaker as the 3rd arm which gives you possibly enough to upgrade at catcher as well.  

I would note that Shoemaker still has one more year of arbitration control according to Baseball-Reference.com so he may not be available if the Jays think he has recovered from his ACL injury. He has a sub-2.00 ERA before that injury occurred so they are more likely to gamble on running him out in their rotation to rebuild his value.

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30 minutes ago, Blarg said:

The Angels have enough pitching depth that a third starter would not only be redundant but no better than what we have considering the budget allotment. Without a quality catcher there is no pitching upgrade. 

I’m not really comfortable with 30 starts coming from Suarez, Barria and Sandoval. So I’d like to see us do both. 

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2 hours ago, Dochalo said:

who was the guy who used to make the stick man cartoons for AW?  those were hilarious.  

 

53 minutes ago, Tank said:

I thought it was @Rico

I'm pretty sure it was RIco and they were indeed hilarious.  I'd forgotten about those.

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13 hours ago, Stradling said:

I’d choose three starters.  We need quality depth in the rotation and you literally can’t win without quality major league pitching.  Catchers have value on both sides of the ball, so if you can’t get offense from one you can probably get away with a really good defensive catcher, basically what they expect Stassi to be. 

yep

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Wow! This is close. I chose the third starter. I think with Trout, Ohtani, Simmons, Upton, we don't need an upgrade catcher as much as a third starter. Good poll.

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11 hours ago, Blarg said:

The Angels have enough pitching depth that a third starter would not only be redundant but no better than what we have considering the budget allotment. Without a quality catcher there is no pitching upgrade. 

I definitely disagree. Heaney really disappointed me this year.

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12 hours ago, Stradling said:

How bout Shoemaker as the 3rd arm which gives you possibly enough to upgrade at catcher as well.  

creative, i like it.
A wrinkle though would be to add him as a third arm plus the catcher as I dont think hes going to be very expensive. 

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12 hours ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

I think a lot of us are going to be disappointed this off season...

I agree unfortunately. 
I think the moves are obvious, but the cost will be prohibitive.
Cole alone wont get it done, they will have to be much more aggressive just to get him, and then realize the job is only half done. 
Its possible, the parts are out there, its just going to require them to go into payroll numbers they have never even dreamed of before. 

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