Joe Maddon and LA Angels agree to three-year deal to become next manager

[Pancake Bear]

6 hours ago, True Grich said:

So some things to think about (or not)... the Cubs lead the NL in outs on the base paths the last two years and made the second most amount of errors last year.  Listening to mlb network radio and an interview with some guy from ESPN Chicago - "accountability" became an issue for the Cubs in regards to Maddon. 

I thought it was interesting... doesn't change my opinion on this being a good hire for the Angels... but it was interesting to hear.

Errors is less of a concern. Fans get obsessed about errors and fielding percentage, but the flaws with both are well documented. Fangraphs rate the Cubs team defense at 12th last year, and 5th the previous two seasons. Honestly, without comparing personnel across the board, it would be difficult to know whether Maddon has a problem there, but the overall numbers suggest he doesn’t. 

But even there, raw error totals tell us jack about defensive strategy, etc. That is what is actually relevant. 

Base running, per Fangraphs, had the Cubs mid league the last two seasons, and above the Angels this season and behind them the year before. Outs on the basepath could mean they had really aggressive base runners or base coaches. Hard to know with the bare data. Still, in both areas, I think he’s at least as good as Ausmus and probably better.

[Lou]

On October 16, 2019 at 8:51 AM, Troll Daddy said:

Joe manages with his instincts and not some piece of paper with numbers on it.

 

good hire 

I agree 

[Stradling]

Holy shit, where has he been?

[arch stanton]

8 hours ago, Stradling said:

Holy shit, where has he been?

He's been in this wonderful place that I like to call Not Here

[Tank]

3 hours ago, arch stanton said:

He's been in this wonderful place that I like to call Not Here

That’s near Fresno, isn’t it?

[Stradling]

10 minutes ago, Tank said:

That’s near Fresno, isn’t it?

Kabul, so yes.

[bloodbrother]

[Jason]

This thread is awful to look back on. It should be deleted 

[tdawg87]

55 minutes ago, Jason said:

This thread is awful to look back on. It should be deleted 

[mmc]

I also hated Ausmus, nor do I care that the team moved on from Scioscia. 

At this point, I just wish they'd let Perry pick a coaching staff.

[Second Base]

On 10/16/2019 at 10:01 AM, Dochalo said:

I love the Mickey Callaway idea for pitching coach.  

many say he was a huge influence on Kluber's success as a late bloomer and as well apparently doing a great job with several others on the indians staff from 2013 to 2017.  

He also got Ubaldo back on track in 2013.  

This could be a really great addition.  

Oh, I didn't know you hate women. Right on.....

Edited April 16, 2022 by Second Base

[Second Base]

And for the record, I still love Joe Maddon. Managers are mostly there for clubhouse chemistry and really aren't that impactful on the outcome of the game unless they do something stupid like intentionally walk someone with the bases loaded. 

[Jason]

9 hours ago, cals said:

I can’t wait until we get someone worlds worse like that Jewish guy we had for a year.

 

Great song.