Joe Maddon and LA Angels agree to three-year deal to become next manager

[Angelsjunky]

Anyhow, Maddon will continue to be the oldest manager in MLB at 65, but he's not even closest to oldest ever. I looked up Connie Mack, and man: managed from 1894 to 1950, retiring at age 88. 50 years as the Phillies manager! (Imagine 30 more years of Scioscia for an equivalency).

Jack McKeon managed the Marlins in 2011 at age 80.

[T.G.]

55 minutes ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

Exactly. Just like every manager does.

That doesn't stop AW from freaking out when any manager says anything nice about someone you all hate.

Wait... Did Maddon compliment Justin Bour?  If so, that changes everything.

[Taylor]

5 minutes ago, True Grich said:

Wait... Did Maddon compliment Justin Bour?  If so, that changes everything.

What about this guy?

 

[T.G.]

He doesn't bother me nearly as much as he does the rest of AW.

[Inside Pitch]

1 hour ago, Angelsjunky said:

Come on, Jeff. We're not one, monolithic, raving mob of irrational fans.

Oh, wait...

[Mark68]

7 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

Anyhow, Maddon will continue to be the oldest manager in MLB at 65, but he's not even closest to oldest ever. I looked up Connie Mack, and man: managed from 1894 to 1950, retiring at age 88. 50 years as the Phillies manager! (Imagine 30 more years of Scioscia for an equivalency).

Jack McKeon managed the Marlins in 2011 at age 80.

Actually, it was the Philadelphia A's.

[Hubs]

1 hour ago, Angelsjunky said:

Anyhow, Maddon will continue to be the oldest manager in MLB at 65, but he's not even closest to oldest ever. I looked up Connie Mack, and man: managed from 1894 to 1950, retiring at age 88. 50 years as the Phillies manager! (Imagine 30 more years of Scioscia for an equivalency).

Jack McKeon managed the Marlins in 2011 at age 80.

Mack managed the A’s when they were in Philadelphia not the Phillies. 

[Hubs]

If Cozart hits well he’d be a real nice asset. 
 

[totdprods]

11 minutes ago, Hubs said:

If Cozart hits well he’d be a real nice asset. 
 

I’m secretly hoping he turns into a sort of Zobrist-lite. Not likely, but if he can scrap up .700-.750 OPS and find new life rotating around 5-6 positions, he starts to become a useful piece. Extreme wishful thinking though. 

[T.G.]

1 hour ago, totdprods said:

I’m secretly hoping he turns into Mike Schmidt in his prime

 

[T.G.]

 

[T.G.]

https://www.latimes.com/sports/angels/story/2019-10-17/former-angels-remember-joe-maddon-adept-getting-most-out-of-players

 

[Tank]

i don't expect cozart to be in the lineup much at all next year.

i think you guys are stressing over nothing (something completely out of the ordinary on this forum).

[Docwaukee]

1 hour ago, Tank said:

i don't expect cozart to be in the lineup much at all next year.

i think you guys are stressing over nothing (something completely out of the ordinary on this forum).

[Pancake Bear]

2 hours ago, True Grich said:

 

That’s who Maddon is, and it’s a good thing.

[fan_since79]

6 hours ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

Exactly. Just like every manager does.

That doesn't stop AW from freaking out when any manager says anything nice about someone you all hate.

I don't hate Cozart.

I hate his miniscule batting average clogging up the lineup.

[Adam Knox]

Stoked!

[tdawg87]

3 hours ago, fan_since79 said:

I don't hate Cozart.

I do.

[T.G.]

So some things to think about (or not)... the Cubs lead the NL in outs on the base paths the last two years and made the second most amount of errors last year.  Listening to mlb network radio and an interview with some guy from ESPN Chicago - "accountability" became an issue for the Cubs in regards to Maddon. 

I thought it was interesting... doesn't change my opinion on this being a good hire for the Angels... but it was interesting to hear.

[kevinb]

8 minutes ago, True Grich said:

So some things to think about (or not)... the Cubs lead the NL in outs on the base paths the last two years and made the second most amount of errors last year.  Listening to mlb network radio and an interview with some guy from ESPN Chicago - "accountability" became an issue for the Cubs in regards to Maddon. 

I thought it was interesting... doesn't change my opinion on this being a good hire for the Angels... but it was interesting to hear.

No manager is perfect. And even the ones who win titles people complain about. People as a whole complain. It’s in our nature. It’s one of the things we do best. 

[T.G.]

2 minutes ago, Kevinb said:

No manager is perfect. And even the ones who win titles people complain about. People as a whole complain. It’s in our nature. It’s one of the things we do best. 

No one was complaining.

[Inside Pitch]

28 minutes ago, True Grich said:

So some things to think about (or not)... the Cubs lead the NL in outs on the base paths the last two years and made the second most amount of errors last year.  Listening to mlb network radio and an interview with some guy from ESPN Chicago - "accountability" became an issue for the Cubs in regards to Maddon. 

I thought it was interesting... doesn't change my opinion on this being a good hire for the Angels... but it was interesting to hear.

Many of us have said it over and over and over again..   He is Mike Scioscia redux.   Fans here used to bitch and moan that MS didn't go off on guys that got thrown out -- they believed he was too kind to players etc etc..   Maddon is exactly the same way..   Oh, and for all the talk about how he was on the cutting edge of analytics -- no team shifted less than the Cubs last year.

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/visuals/team-positioning

[Claude]

13 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Many of us have said it over and over and over again..   He is Mike Scioscia redux.   Fans here used to bitch and moan that MS didn't go off on guys that got thrown out -- they believed he was too kind to players etc etc..   Maddon is exactly the same way..   Oh, and for all the talk about how he was on the cutting edge of analytics -- no team shifted less than the Cubs last year.

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/visuals/team-positioning

I think Sosh was caught in the “you’ve been here way too long so it’s time for change” moment. Bringing in Ausmus was a bump in the road. Joe Maddon may have the same game strategy as Sosh but his personality will be the difference maker. I think he’ll do a good job. 

Edited October 18, 2019 by Calzone 2

[Inside Pitch]

17 hours ago, Tank said:

i don't expect cozart to be in the lineup much at all next year.

i think you guys are stressing over nothing (something completely out of the ordinary on this forum).

I dont expect to see much of him because I don't believe he will be physically able to perform..   The reports at midseason where he couldnt bring his arm across the body didn't really paint of picture of someone who would be able to return to baseball activities.  He'll be our Prince FIelder, take up a roster spot until the season start and likely get put on the 60 day DL until his contract expires...

[ten ocho recon scout]

4 hours ago, Inside Pitch said:

He'll be our Prince FIelder, take up a roster spot until the season start and likely get put on the 60 day DL until his contract expires...