Angels employee details team's knowledge of Tyler Skaggs' drug use to DEA

[yk9001]

1 hour ago, Lou said:

Kay. 

Do you think he's a liar when he says that there are five other Angels players he supplied?

[Lou]

2 minutes ago, yk9001 said:

He must have partied alone a lot, because every player and management quote portrayed shock.

in actuality, many addicts do.

[Lou]

1 minute ago, yk9001 said:

Do you think he's a liar when he says that there are five other Angels players he supplied?

no

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

25 minutes ago, True Grich said:

Powerful piece from Tim Brown of Yahoo Sports.  I've always liked Brown's work...

Excerpt:

"We must know who knew. We must know who could have stopped it. We must know who facilitated the end. Who followed protocol, who did not, and who made the choices that led to the choices that led to the choices … "

The days will be more trying but we must get answers surrounding Tyler Skaggs' death

I'm guessing he wouldn't think the same thing if it was some rando who OD'd.  If it wasn't Kay it would have been someone else supplying or providing it if Skaggs wanted it.  I'm not saying Kay's hands are clean but Brown makes it sound like this was some high level drug ring when in all likelihood it was maybe five or so guys who liked to party or needed their fix.  

[T.G.]

1 minute ago, Catwhoshatinthehat said:

I'm guessing he wouldn't think the same thing if it was some rando who OD'd.  If it wasn't Kay it would have been someone else supplying or providing it if Skaggs wanted it.  I'm not saying Kay's hands are clean but Brown makes it sound like this was some high level drug ring when in all likelihood it was maybe five or so guys who liked to party or needed their fix.  

I didn't get that impression from Brown at all.

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

4 minutes ago, True Grich said:

I didn't get that impression from Brown at all.

"We must know who knew. We must know who could have stopped it. We must know who facilitated the end. Who followed protocol, who did not, and who made the choices that led to the choices that led to the choices … "

Just seems like sensationalism.  The person who made the choice was Skaggs.  I'm not trying to crucify the guy but he was an adult and was playing with fire.  Snorting pills isn't something you just up and do one time after having a beer.  Addiction is no joke but like others have said in some cases it's just people who like to party.  Go to any college campus or hell even high school parties and see people doing things that are pretty risky as far as what they're taking.  When drinks don't work maybe people start smoking then when that doesn't work as well they up the ante again.  

[Jay]

There could have been others who supplied Skaggs.

Kay could be just one of several.

 

[Troll Daddy]

I’ve taken oxycodone recently after my surgery ... hell, I didn’t realize you can party on this drug. The only after effect was constipation. lol

[Slegnaac]

1 hour ago, yk9001 said:

Do you think he's a liar when he says that there are five other Angels players he supplied?

I think we can all name at least one of the 5 players.

[yk9001]

5 minutes ago, Slegnaac said:

I think we can all name at least one of the 5 players.

Does it rhyme with Slosh Cramilton?

[Slegnaac]

2 minutes ago, yk9001 said:

Does it rhyme with Slosh Cramilton?

To quote Ed McMann,  You sir, are correct.

[eligrba]

1 hour ago, Troll Daddy said:

I’ve taken oxycodone recently after my surgery ... hell I didn’t realize you can party on this drug. The only after effect was constipation. lol

You used it at the wrong end.

[eligrba]

8 minutes ago, yk9001 said:

Does it rhyme with Slosh Cramilton?

Maybe it also rhymes with Pilson?

[totdprods]

20 minutes ago, Slegnaac said:

I think we can all name at least one of the 5 players.

My guess is that it would be a lot easier for Kay to name former players than current players. Easier to keep distance from anything current (if needed) and avoid any other uncomfortable truths.

At least, I’m hoping this was something more of a past problem than present.

[VariousCrap]

On 10/12/2019 at 2:19 PM, Chuckster70 said:

All I know is if this thread or any other thread turns into a shit on Tim Mead discussion I'll kindly put the website to sleep again, for good. 

 

If it turns out he knew and did nothing about it, he will deserve it.

[ten ocho recon scout]

1 hour ago, eligrba said:

Maybe it also rhymes with Pilson?

Cj wilson? Meh.... that dude was like  "i wont even touch a soda" guy.

[ten ocho recon scout]

17 hours ago, Lou said:

since when does 4 years equal 7 years? 

With how relaxed out laws have become , you usually do about 3 when you get 7.

Wait. What are you talking about?

[Pancake Bear]

1 hour ago, eligrba said:

Maybe it also rhymes with Pilson?

Dude was straight edge. Trout is more likely to have been one of the five than Wilson

6 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Cj wilson? Meh.... that dude was like  "i wont even touch a soda" guy.

Exactly.

[ten ocho recon scout]

6 hours ago, nate said:

Lying to federal investigators is obstruction...

Ive been doing this job for quite some time now....since before the economy tanked.  There is ZERO way you get in trouble for lying to the cops during an investigation.

Obstruction is impeding an in progress crime... like hiding a fugitive. Blocking my path if im chasing somone.

 If i ask you if you sell drugs, you say no, and i show you a video of you selling drugs, you still get arrested for drug sales... but no enhancement for lying about it.

Youre not even obligated to speak in the first place..... speaking lies doesnt fall into a new crime.

[Vlad27Trout27]

Im going say that the pitcher that were awful us and went to have successful career after leaving us, were the 5. 

they were to busy getting high with us, that they sucked 

[ten ocho recon scout]

1 minute ago, calscuf said:

I think we’re all curious if 15 will really get you 20.

Depends. Did you shank a CO or a shotcaller?

[nate]

1 hour ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Ive been doing this job for quite some time now....since before the economy tanked.  There is ZERO way you get in trouble for lying to the cops during an investigation.

Obstruction is impeding an in progress crime... like hiding a fugitive. Blocking my path if im chasing somone.

 If i ask you if you sell drugs, you say no, and i show you a video of you selling drugs, you still get arrested for drug sales... but no enhancement for lying about it.

Youre not even obligated to speak in the first place..... speaking lies doesnt fall into a new crime.

Lying to a federal agent is a felony.  If it isn't prosecuted fine, but it is absolutely a crime.  And they aren't cops, they are DEA agents.

https://www.justice.gov/jm/criminal-resource-manual-916-false-statements-federal-investigator

[Jeff Fletcher]

All that’s been reported is that Skaggs and Kay used opioids together for “years.”

We don’t know if that meant every day or once a month. 

Lots of people have destructive habits that they can keep hidden.

I’m also not going to pretend to be an expert on opioids but isn’t the point that you take them and sort of just pass out, so you’re not going to be out doing it in a bar. You’re going to do it alone in your hotel room. 
 

I am sure someone here knows more than me about it. 

[Jeff Fletcher]

1 hour ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Ive been doing this job for quite some time now....since before the economy tanked.  There is ZERO way you get in trouble for lying to the cops during an investigation.

Obstruction is impeding an in progress crime... like hiding a fugitive. Blocking my path if im chasing somone.

 If i ask you if you sell drugs, you say no, and i show you a video of you selling drugs, you still get arrested for drug sales... but no enhancement for lying about it.

Youre not even obligated to speak in the first place..... speaking lies doesnt fall into a new crime.

Today I talked to a former DEA agent and that is not what he said. He said they’ll bust you and throw your butt in jail for lying just as much as for the crime itself. 

[Tyler]

5 minutes ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

Today I talked to a former DEA agent and that is not what he said. He said they’ll bust you and throw your butt in jail for lying just as much as for the crime itself. 

 

How long do you expect this circus to continue?