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18 minutes ago, Vlad27Trout27 said:

Just wait until he signs Cole, than the love will return.

I don’t think Cole will come here and I don’t blame him. The angels are the team that you come to and get injuries and carrier goes down hill. I do really really hope he does come here but doubt it

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Eppler will almost certainly be extended. The team will almost certainly continue to be mediocre over the duration of his tenure and the fans will continue to gladly accept it. We're basically just the Pirates of the AL at this point. Not much we can do about it except complain constantly

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1 hour ago, failos said:

To be fair, the Trout extension is the best he’s ever done. That and signing Ohtani and trading for Simmons. I’m not a fan of anything else he’s done.

Aside from Upton and the Albatross contract,  the remaining Angel position players are more than capable of generating offense.  But this pitching staff is one of the worst in the league. There's not 1 SP who can go beyond 5 innings. It's comical.....

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2 hours ago, GrittyVeterans said:

Right, it won’t solve it. But he’s in year 5 of HIS rebuild. At what point do you look at the results objectively and say that they just aren’t where they should be? I honestly don’t know the answer to that. 

5 years is not an unfair amount of time when you inherited the best player of all time

you cant tell me with a straight face that you DIDNT expect them to be closer to contention right now than they are. I remember people saying this would be the beginning of the WS window. And it isn’t 

Were in year 3 of his rebuild. And while inheriting the best player, he absorbed a massive contract with Pujols, still 2 mores years of Hamilton (still on the books), Weaver as our best pitcher, skaggs and heaney supposed to be front end, but out with TJ, etc etc. Then Richards goes out...

Bedrosian our best prospect when he took over...

Again... I think a lot of you guys have very short memories. Swap eppler with anyone else... what would GM X have done in that situation? 

We had no money, nothing to trade. No one to bring up...Drafting was the only way to go.

Look at Pujols' numbers in 2017. Then add Hamilton, who wasnt even here. Then add trouts money... that was what, 80 mill right there?

Then you have another 100 mill, give or take, to fill out a rotation (which was missing 3 of its top guys to TJ at that time), and 7 other starting player spots...

And its not like 2016 was a much different situation. 2018 was pretty much sunk when Richards went down again, and Ohtani went out. 

Now..... how many of those problems were part of "his" rebuild? Ohtani?

Harvey sucked. Cahill sucked. And plenty of others. But the reasoning behind signing them wasnt flawed.

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9 minutes ago, cvdog said:

Aside from Upton and the Albatross contract,  the remaining Angel position players are more than capable of generating offense.  But this pitching staff is one of the worst in the league. There's not 1 SP who can go beyond 5 innings. It's comical.....

Upton is capable of generating offense.  Thinking otherwise is not living in reality.  

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8 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Were in year 3 of his rebuild. And while inheriting the best player, he absorbed a massive contract with Pujols, still 2 mores years of Hamilton (still on the books), Weaver as our best pitcher, skaggs and heaney supposed to be front end, but out with TJ, etc etc. Then Richards goes out...

Bedrosian our best prospect when he took over...

Again... I think a lot of you guys have very short memories. Swap eppler with anyone else... what would GM X have done in that situation? 

We had no money, nothing to trade. No one to bring up...Drafting was the only way to go.

Look at Pujols' numbers in 2017. Then add Hamilton, who wasnt even here. Then add trouts money... that was what, 80 mill right there?

Then you have another 100 mill, give or take, to fill out a rotation (which was missing 3 of its top guys to TJ at that time), and 7 other starting player spots...

And its not like 2016 was a much different situation. 2018 was pretty much sunk when Richards went down again, and Ohtani went out. 

Now..... how many of those problems were part of "his" rebuild? Ohtani?

Harvey sucked. Cahill sucked. And plenty of others. But the reasoning behind signing them wasnt flawed.

I said this in another thread about tanking, but it also works here.  If we didn’t have Eppler we very well could have had better rotation, but you’d have to think we would have less financial flexibility because you aren’t signing good arms without spending the money.  Also you have to convince Arte to spend money again.  Plus as you mentioned the contracts that were still on the books when he came on board. Not sure where we would be with Trout, it is totally possible he would have still signed an extension, but that isn’t a guarantee.  We may not have Adell or Canning.  Probably wouldn’t have Simmons or Ohtani.  It is totally possible that the other GM would make every single right decision in free agency and with the draft, but probably not.  

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44 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Were in year 3 of his rebuild. And while inheriting the best player, he absorbed a massive contract with Pujols, still 2 mores years of Hamilton (still on the books), Weaver as our best pitcher, skaggs and heaney supposed to be front end, but out with TJ, etc etc. Then Richards goes out...

Bedrosian our best prospect when he took over...

Again... I think a lot of you guys have very short memories. Swap eppler with anyone else... what would GM X have done in that situation? 

We had no money, nothing to trade. No one to bring up...Drafting was the only way to go.

Look at Pujols' numbers in 2017. Then add Hamilton, who wasnt even here. Then add trouts money... that was what, 80 mill right there?

Then you have another 100 mill, give or take, to fill out a rotation (which was missing 3 of its top guys to TJ at that time), and 7 other starting player spots...

And its not like 2016 was a much different situation. 2018 was pretty much sunk when Richards went down again, and Ohtani went out. 

Now..... how many of those problems were part of "his" rebuild? Ohtani?

Harvey sucked. Cahill sucked. And plenty of others. But the reasoning behind signing them wasnt flawed.

There’s absolutely no rebuilding that has gone on. That’s just a nice way of saying the Angels still suck ass after his 4 years. 

The Angels farm system is ranked #17. They have ONE prospect in the top 100. Just stop this BS narrative. 

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1 minute ago, Vladdylonglegs said:

There’s absolutely no rebuilding that has gone on. That’s just a nice way of saying the Angels still suck ass after his 4 years. 

The Angels farm system is ranked #17. 

You really can’t be this stupid.  

 

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Eppler has made some mistakes, without question.  His free agent signings need to improve.  He has done well on trades, finding talent on the waiver wire and convincing Trout and Ohtani that the future is bright.

Eppler's mistakes seem to have only impacted the immediate and not the long term results.  He should be on the hot seat, but who knew that Harvey, Cahill, Allen, Lucroy collectively would be as bad as they were in 2019. 

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Love to see Eppler still can’t be discussed in any type of negative light without the same assholes getting their panties twisted and acting like they’re superior to everyone.  The Angels are the laughing stock of baseball, literally everyone else makes fun of how absurd it is that we can’t win Trout any playoff games. The cockiness of the Eppler Kool-Aid drinkers is actually hilarious. Be self-aware people.

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4 minutes ago, mymerlincat said:

Love to see Eppler still can’t be discussed in any type of negative light without the same assholes getting their panties twisted and acting like they’re superior to everyone.  The Angels are the laughing stock of baseball, literally everyone else makes fun of how absurd it is that we can’t win Trout any playoff games. The cockiness of the Eppler Kool-Aid drinkers is actually hilarious. Be self-aware people.

hahaha.  

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2 minutes ago, mymerlincat said:

Yes I agree it’s hilarious how much you take any type of Eppler bashing up the ass

No, it is hilarious that we have a thread dedicated to Firing Eppler and you use a term like "Eppler can't be discussed in any type of negative light", so firing him is "any type of negative light".  It makes you appear to be really fucking dumb, which well, yea.    It is almost as dumb as assuming Upton can't be an offensive contributor because he isn't playing great right now.

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5 minutes ago, Stradling said:

No, it is hilarious that we have a thread dedicated to Firing Eppler and you use a term like "Eppler can't be discussed in any type of negative light", so firing him is "any type of negative light".  It makes you appear to be really Facking dumb, which well, yea.    It is almost as dumb as assuming Upton can't be an offensive contributor because he isn't playing great right now.

“Love to see Eppler still can’t be discussed in any type of negative light without the same assholes getting their panties twisted and acting like they’re superior to everyone.

Reading isn’t really your thing, is it?

 

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Just now, Vladdylonglegs said:

“Love to see Eppler still can’t be discussed in any type of negative light without the same assholes getting their panties twisted and acting like they’re superior to everyone.”

Reading isn’t really your thing, is it?

 

kinda like how common sense and reality aren't your things.  There were two Epplers on the grassy knoll.  

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I think Eppler’s option will be picked up ... yet, it hasn’t for some reason. The front office needs to give the guy a little reassurance that he’s still their guy. There’s really no reason why it shouldn’t of already been pickup unless it has already?

The farm was bound to get better even if you put @Dochalo and @Stradling in charge of rebuilding the farm ? I’ll give Arte most of the credit on the Trout extension. The Simmons trade and Ohtani was mostly all Eppler ?.

Personally, I would like to see Eppler as GM next season. 

 

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