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Angels DFA Jonathan Lucroy

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4 hours ago, robblin17 said:

The guy was absolutely horrendous and one of the worst "catchers" I have ever seen. I don't know what the hell people from Oakland were talking about. 

Rough FA class for Eppler:

Allen
Harvey
Lucroy
Bour

Cahill will probably make it through the year because no one cares if his arm falls off and he can eat some innings. No, you can't eat the innings literally, Trevor. 

But, all one year deals!

Don't forget Stratton

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didn't see this coming.

we DFA one of our major off season acquisitions to make room for STASSI ?

WOW.  Now, I was not that impressed with Lucroy's defensive skills when we got him -- and folks here claimed - 'oh he's pretty good behind the dish ' AND -- he was  better than I expected on defense - but then , I did not expect much.

meanwhile there's another catcher out there that has been traded / signed about three times since last year's stretch run. I still think the guy's defense behind the plate had something to do with Houston playing so well down the stretch and into the post-season.

Martin Maldonado - -can't hit much - but can play defense behind the dish -- now he's BACK with Houston again this year for this stretch run after time spent with Houston, Kansas City, Chicago Cubs and now Houston again since he left the Halos in 2018.

I thought then and now - we should have re-signed him before the 2019 season. He sat out un-signed almost all of Spring Training finally signing with the Royals when Sal Perez went down with a season ending injury.

And the prior post that says Eppler's F/A class/ signings have been somewhat far less than successful is very accurate........what a disaster.

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reading about Stassi -- a goo d defensive catcher who hit something like .167 this year -- maybe we did acquire another but younger Martin Maldonado.

so maybe an OK move after all.

Houston gets Maldonado, veteran defensive specialist for stretch run/ post season and we get Stassi - the younger version - for 2020 and beyond.  Heck - we're not going to be in the playoffs this year.

So a 'younger' Maldonado maybe not such a bad idea.  And he's likely to get a lot of MLB playing time in August and September.

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3 hours ago, Stradling said:

I agree, I would have loved to have those guys, you brought up Lynn and he was also one of the guys I wanted to sign, but maybe not for his 3 year $30 million deal. The problem with Miley or Gio is we have no idea what their asking price was when we signed Cahill and Harvey.  You can’t just assume we dropped the ball if they either expressed no interest in coming here or at the time their price in dollars and years was quite different in December than when they actually signed. 

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38 minutes ago, disarcina said:

I wonder if we tried to move Lucroy at deadline time?  No takers I take it -- and now they can get him for the MLB minimum for the rest of the season - KC may pick him up.

My understanding is they talked to a few teams about Lucroy but then when it came time to make a deal, no one was interested.

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14 minutes ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

^^^^

So was it that they didn’t want to come here or that Eppler got outplayed by acting too early? 

The assumptions go both ways. 

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1 hour ago, nando714 said:

At least trade him for cash. Who cares

but now you get nothing lol

When every team in contention's back up catcher is better than he is and no team out of it is even willing to give up the cash....     Seriously, check out the catchers on contenders, it's nutty how many good hitting catchers there are right now.  

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4 hours ago, Inside Pitch said:


Anyone actually mad about this probably needs to be reminded of their anger when they heard the Angels off-season catching move was Lucroy in the first place...


     
  

Not mad, just puzzled.  Why didnt we trade him for international money or something.  

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they should have an mlb gm forum:  

?Any Interest in Lucroy, Bour, Harvey, Cahill, or Allen?                                                                0 replies   SurferBill
     by SurferBill, June 4  #crickets, #lol                                                                                              0 views    47 days ago
 

       
 

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Just now, Dochalo said:

they should have an mlb gm forum:  

?Any Interest in Lucroy, Bour, Harvey, Cahill, or Allen?                                                                0 replies   SurferBill
     by SurferBill, June 4  #crickets, #lol                                                                                              0 views    47 days ago
 

       
 

Oh come on, there'd be at least a few replies. One from the Houston GM simply typing "lol" and then the Dodgers GM saying "Oh yes gimme dat package exactly for Bellinger and Buehler haha NERD!"

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Just now, Dochalo said:

they should have an mlb gm forum:  

?Any Interest in Lucroy, Bour, Harvey, Cahill, or Allen?                                                                0 replies   SurferBill
     by SurferBill, June 4  #crickets, #lol                                                                                              0 views    47 days ago
 

       
 

TRADES!!!!                                                                                                                                  695,874 replies   HandsomeGMhatesMike
by HandsomeGMhatesMike, May 1, 1996  #Ididn'twanthamilton                                  4,875,481 views    4 seconds ago

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26 minutes ago, stormngt said:

Not mad, just puzzled.  Why didnt we trade him for international money or something.  

What sort of teams would need him?   Contenders?  Outside of Oakland there really aren't any that really need a C, even a back up catcher and in Oakland's case they have Murphy in AAA.

Check out MLBs contender's catchers


NYY -- Gary Sanchez 110 OPS+, Romine 79
BOS -- Christian Vazquez 103 OPS+, Leon 49
T.B. --  Travis D'Arnaud 135 OPS+, Zunnino 49  CS% 39%
MIN -- Mitch Garver 156 OPS+, Castro 113
CLE -- Roberto Perez 107 OPS+, Plawecki 61
HOU -- Robinson Chirinos 112 OPS+ Traded for Maldonado

LAD - Will Smith 224 OPS+, Martin 75.   They recently moved Barnes to down to make room for Smith
SF -- Buster Posey and Steven Vogt 137 OPS+
ATL -- Brian McCaan 104 OPS+, Tyler Flowers 90
PHI -- JT Realmuto 99 OPS+ Knapp 49
WASH -- Kurt Suzuki 96 OPS+ Yan Gomez 37% CS
STL -- Yadier Molina 75 OPS+ 35% CS, Weiters 105 OPS+
CHC - Wilson Contreras 130 OPS+, Caratini 109 OPS+
MIL - Yasmani Grandal 122 OPS+, Pina 85 OPS+ 33% CS

Lucroy -- 81 OPS+, 26% CS.

So, unless you can think of some rebuilding team that has use of a catcher with an expiring contract ....  who would want him?

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MLB Network had Brad Ausmus on earlier today. He talked about how it was tough to tell a player that he had been DFA'd, especially one who was as well liked in the clubhouse as Lucroy was. He also talked about the emotional time that the team has had since the death of Tyler Skaggs.

When they finished the interview, the hosts brought up something that I hadn't considered during the tough spell that the Angels have had over the past week. This team may be emotionally spent, with everything that they have gone through. Not saying that it will stay that way for the rest of the season, but it has been a rough year for the players.

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