Angels to Acquire Max Stassi for OFs Rainier Rivas, Raider Uceta

[Blarg]

Eppler is Agent Smith.

[tomsred]

2 hours ago, REDneck said:

A few of the guys on this site are very knowledgeable! Just because he's a major league GM doesn't make him a competent one.

With that said I don't have a huge issue with the trade especially if it helps bring Cole here.

We also need a defense first catcher that can handle a staff but wasn't Lucroy supposed to be that guy?

So did Eppler whiff on Lucroy?

To some extent I do think he whiffed on Lucroy.  Lucroy is not as good as he once was, but serviceable.  I think the organization is tired of all the pitches that get by catchers.  Yes, most of it is due to poor pitching, but the catchers we currently have aren't the greatest at stopping them.  We lead the majors in wild pitches.  Maybe Stassi can block a greater number of them, maybe not.  If you constantly are moving runners into scoring position via wild pitches, passed balls, or poor throws to the bases it sure isn't helping.

[ten ocho recon scout]

On 8/1/2019 at 7:29 AM, eligrba said:

Looks like the return of Jeff Mathis.

In all honesty, if that is true, ill take it.

Not like weve had some badass hitting catcher since Iannetta. But we also havent had some witch defender either.

 

Edited August 3, 2021 by ten ocho recon scout

[ten ocho recon scout]

2 hours ago, REDneck said:

A few of the guys on this site are very knowledgeable! Just because he's a major league GM doesn't make him a competent one.

While true, even the most knowledgeable poster on this site has zero access to actual front office info.

We can all look at other orgs, see prospects we like, invent trade proposals that are absolutely reasonable.

What we cant do is discuss that with other front offices...who would tell us why they wouldnt do that trade.

[eligrba]

45 minutes ago, tomsred said:

To some extent I do think he whiffed on Lucroy.  Lucroy is not as good as he once was, but serviceable.  I think the organization is tired of all the pitches that get by catchers.  Yes, most of it is due to poor pitching, but the catchers we currently have aren't the greatest at stopping them.  We lead the majors in wild pitches.  Maybe Stassi can block a greater number of them, maybe not.  If you constantly are moving runners into scoring position via wild pitches, passed balls, or poor throws to the bases it sure isn't helping.

This^^^^^^

[mmc]

It was stated that part of the reason the Astros got Machete was that “their pitchers liked pitching to him” and they thought Stassi was expendable in that regard so that should put things into perspective.

[Stradling]

11 hours ago, REDneck said:

A few of the guys on this site are very knowledgeable! Just because he's a major league GM doesn't make him a competent one.

With that said I don't have a huge issue with the trade especially if it helps bring Cole here.

We also need a defense first catcher that can handle a staff but wasn't Lucroy supposed to be that guy?

So did Eppler whiff on Lucroy?

Ok, my guess is he is more knowledgeable and more competent than guys on here.  

[Troll Daddy]

Why couldn’t he make a trade for Will Smith instead 

[Docwaukee]

3 hours ago, Troll Daddy said:

Why couldn’t he make a trade for Will Smith instead 

he's a FA at the end of the year.  we'd only need to make like 5 other moves on top of that to win the wild card this year.  

[Lou]

3 hours ago, Troll Daddy said:

Why couldn’t he make a trade for Will Smith instead 

Same reason no team did. The cost was too high. Boston really wanted him but weren't willing to pay the price

[Roy Hobbs]

The Dodgers were not going to give him up

[eligrba]

22 hours ago, REDneck said:

A few of the guys on this site are very knowledgeable! Just because he's a major league GM doesn't make him a competent one.

With that said I don't have a huge issue with the trade especially if it helps bring Cole here.

We also need a defense first catcher that can handle a staff but wasn't Lucroy supposed to be that guy?

So did Eppler whiff on Lucroy?

Please post your resume with any pertinent documents for describing your evaluative process determining the competency of a general manager.

Thank you.

Edited August 2, 2019 by eligrba

[Stradling]

2 minutes ago, REDneck said:

I didn't say he was incompetent..Yet!

But as long as you've brought it up..

How about WINS as the criteria for evalution.

I think that’s silly but ok.  The league is littered with very good managers and GMs on losing teams. 

[eligrba]

10 minutes ago, REDneck said:

I didn't say he was incompetent..Yet!

But as long as you've brought it up..

How about WINS as the criteria for evalution.

The only thing I know is that using a single measurement for determining anything is foolish.  (Refer to the current trend of using advanced analytics.)

[Jay]

38 minutes ago, Stradling said:

The league is littered with very good managers and GMs on losing teams. 

if you say so

 

[Stradling]

2 minutes ago, Jay said:

if you say so

 

Thanks. 

[Troll Daddy]

7 hours ago, Dochalo said:

he's a FA at the end of the year.  we'd only need to make like 5 other moves on top of that to win the wild card this year.  

Wrong Will Smith ... talking about the Dodgers catcher Will Smith. He was drafted as a comp pick in the same year the Angels drafted Matt Thaiss. The rich get richer ... lucky  

[Stradling]

2 minutes ago, Troll Daddy said:

Wrong Will Smith ... talking about the Dodgers catcher Will Smith. He was drafted as a comp pick in the same year the Angels drafted Matt Thaiss. The rich get richer ... lucky  

My guess is acquiring that Will Smith would have cost a TON more.  

[m0nkey]

21 hours ago, Randy Gradishar said:

NTropy, Perez, Sandoval, Stassi...the Angels have really taken the Astros to the woodshed the last few years.

Can't tell if this is sarcasm or not but I agree, 4 bonafide stars the Angels have just stolen away.

[Docwaukee]

2 minutes ago, Troll Daddy said:

Wrong Will Smith ... talking about the Dodgers catcher Will Smith. He was drafted as a comp pick in the same year the Angels drafted Matt Thaiss. The rich get richer ... lucky  

oh.  my bad.  I can't imagine why he'd be available if it wasn't for an elite reliever and even then it doesn't/didn't seem the dogs were willing to part with their top young guys.  They also took Gavin Lux at 20 that year.  It is frustrating to watch them do so well with young players.  

[Angel Oracle]

Is there still some disconnect in the Halos system?   Or is it that the Dogs are just THAT da_n good at player development? 

[Stradling]

7 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

Is there still some disconnect in the Halos system?   Or is it that the Dogs are just THAT da_n good at player development? 

Well wouldn’t that be the case with every team that isn’t the Dodgers?  But I truly believe the Dodgers are the best organization in baseball at player development.  

[rafibomb]

 

 

[mmc]

16 minutes ago, rafibomb said:

 

 

Remember when Manny Machado was going to sign with the White Sox because they brought in everyone who had a connection to him?

[rafibomb]

4 minutes ago, mymerlincat said:

Remember when Manny Machado was going to sign with the White Sox because they brought in everyone who had a connection to him?

To be fair, Machado was not born and raised in Chicago but in Florida. Cole was born and raised in Newport Beach, went to high school at Orange Lutheran then college at UCLA. Obviously, this does not mean he will sign with us. I am just pointing out the circumstances could not be any more different and whatever the front office thinks may help no matter how miniscule, I say go for it.