Angels to Acquire Max Stassi for OFs Rainier Rivas, Raider Uceta

[totdprods]

Also, Lucroy is a FA at years end, Smith is out of options and having a hard time staying healthy, and again, no one in the farm really worth counting on.

Give Stassi the keys to the staff now and let him work August and September. If he checks out, one less thing we need to acquire this winter - because we were probably going to need to spend money or prospects on catching anyways. If Stassi works, more assets freed up to finding pitching instead of pitching and catching.

[jsnpritchett]

Also, let me clarify something: I don't think this trade will ultimately impact the Angels' success one way or the other moving forward.  I just think it's a weird trade.  That's all.

[aznhockeyguy]

Not sure what to make of this trade.  If Stassi provides 220 starts with a .650 OPS for the next 2 seasons, it's more or less what Maldonado provided to the Angels.  So the Angels might potentially have a Maldonado clone for the next few seasons.

[Angelsjunky]

Looking more into Stassi, what I think Eppler sees is a guy who has a chance of blossoming with a fresh start and new organization. There's a decent chance he does what he did in 2018, which is hit for league average and be a very good defender. If you squint just right, there's some untapped hitting potential as well. Plus the plausible, if tenuous, Gerrit Cole connection.

Now if Stassi bombs and Cole signs elsewhere and Rivas and/or Uceta crush, then this is going to be Eppler's Bagwell trade.

[Pujols4MVP]

1 hour ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

To be fair Fangraphs has him at -0.1 WAR (they include framing data). So probably a new condom.

Yeah, thats about fair value. Astros GM can now go out n party with Salma Hayek.

[Angelsjunky]

1 hour ago, Dick Enberg said:

That be the guy that collects ears on the side of his head...Don Mossi! That picture is from his 1966 Topps baseball card

That's not the actual picture - someone enlarged his ears. Still, he does have big ears:

[AngelsFaninGA]

Yikes. Can't believe we actually gave up anything of consequence, much less two actually solid prospects. What is you doin Eppler?

[mmc]

Rocky Gale and John Ryan Murphy were had for cash considerations.  No reason for the Angels to give up all this for Stassi.

[Jay]

Should have been able to get Stassi for a bag of chips.

 

[Dick Enberg]

40 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

That's not the actual picture - someone enlarged his ears. Still, he does have big ears:

Agree! 1966 was the first year I collected cards. know these faces all to well!

[Pujols4MVP]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

Should have been able to get Stassi for a bag of chips.

 

Astro's GM might have accepted an offer of 'chip bag from bottom of floor of a movie theater' + a refurbished condom + used bubblegum.

[tdawg87]

While the prospects we gave up are both young and potentially exciting, neither are even in our top 30, and we don't have the deepest farm system right now. Neither player will even sniff the MLB until 2023-2024 at the absolute earliest.

Not to mention, we have a wealth of outfield prospects. We essentially did give up "a bag of chips" for Stassi.

[Docwaukee]

my confidence in Eppler is wavering.  

this trade seems very Jerry to me. 

[Billy_Ball]

 

[tdawg87]

21 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

my confidence in Eppler is wavering.  

this trade seems very Jerry to me. 

Dipoto would have given up Knowles and Jackson.

[tdawg87]

And Adell.

[stormngt]

I hope they seem something that most don't.   We already had three catchers without options.  So we acquire another catcher without options. 

I don't know if either of the two players we have will be worth a damn or not.   They are young and producing on our level. I don't care if we traded the ghost of Brandon Wood. It seems too much.

Maybe Stasis turns into another Maldanado. If so the trade may be worth it.  

[Second Base]

Both prospects were in my top 30, and while I think this is a stupid, awful trade, I'm excited about Stassi, always liked him.

Fun fact, Stassi is from my neck of the woods and I watched him play back in high school.

Sorry to disappoint you all with my indifferent response. I wouldn't have traded either of those prospects, let alone both, but Max Stassi is a fantastic defender and is relatively young.

Edited August 1, 2019 by Second Base

[jsnpritchett]

4 minutes ago, Second Base said:

Both prospects were in my top 30, and while I think this is a stupid, awful trade, I'm excited about Stassi, always liked him.

Fun fact, Stassi is from my neck of the woods and I watched him play back in high school.

Sorry to disappoint you all with my indifferent response. I wouldn't have traded either of those prospects, let alone both, but Max Stassi is a fantastic defender and is relatively young.

Eh, not that young.  29 next March.

[ten ocho recon scout]

1 hour ago, Dochalo said:

my confidence in Eppler is wavering.  

this trade seems very Jerry to me. 

So then we'll trade for these guys back this winter. Badabing badaboom, everyone relax!

[rottiesworld]

I say Appler has lost his mind what a bunch of crap, I think has been doing stupid things lately. I can’t believe makes a trade to just trade, sure we don’t have Seattle’s GM

[tdawg87]

5 minutes ago, rottiesworld said:

I say Appler has lost his mind what a bunch of crap, I think has been doing stupid things lately. I can’t believe makes a trade to just trade, sure we don’t have Seattle’s GM

Well said.

[Stradling]

I love how all of you are better negotiations than a major league GM. 

[UndertheHalo]

I’m honestly quite devastated that my favorite named guy in the entire organization has been traded for a catcher that apparently can’t hit.  

A bit surprised this cost 2 of these guys.  Especially Uceta who I’ve heard nothing but good about since he’s re-emerged .  I mean going back to when they signed him when he was 16 or whatever the power tool seemed loud as hell.  

I’m just not really sure what the point is.  Garneau seemed fine to me.  Stassi is younger I guess.  I don’t know anything about the D.  I guess it’s good from what some of you are saying. 

It seems obvious that Eppler believes from a defensive POV that they are lacking at catcher. I know the team has a league leading number of passed balls.  I tend to think that the pitchers play their fair part in that.  The pitchers are dog shit.   

Anyway.  The Astros are smart.  The evidence is that they’re better at this stuff then the Angels.  So.  Right now I don’t like this. And I hate that now I am compelled to be a crazy person who is intensely invested in the failure of Raider Uceta and some dude called Rainer.  I honestly have pretty substantial doubt that Max Stassi is the Angels backstop of the future.   

FU Eppler !!!!! (Until you deliver Garret Cole)

 

 

Edited August 1, 2019 by UndertheHalo

[UndertheHalo]

Also, I think this is pretty instructive as far as how valuable major league players with control are and how worthless guys in the lower minors are.