F the American Healthcare system

[notherhalo]

our medical system is a joke

its pathetic, my brother is having seizures left and right, constant dosages of lithium does nothing, yet they are trying nothing else, and refuse to look at other options

Meanwhile, Ive had a cough since January....

The few weeks I was in Mexico, I saw a doctor who did X-Rays, listened in with stethoscopes, broke down why certain things should be ruled out, what different symptoms could mean, called me to ask how the antibiotics were working...... for $85 total USD after 3 visits plus meds w/o insurance, and never any waiting time

Here in the incompetent states of America my doctor, "just doesnt know what it could be anymore" after a few 30 second consultations and generic antibiotic/inhaler medications and finally referred me to an ENT, which is going to be another 2 months to see, at the earliest... or I could pay $300 ("platinum HMO) to bust in the ER, annoy all the nurses for a non emergency, see another clueless doctor 

Its sad... Im thinking of going back to Mexico just to see a doctor

F*ck this place 

[notherhalo]

Im not done

I had a girlfriend in Hungary who was a doctor, and barely made much $$$ compared to the barber.   She did a research project with her group on autism, and while funding ran out halfway through, they volunteered their time and money to complete it anyway, because helping the handicapped was something she really liked to do, it wasnt about the money.

What are the odds the parents whipping their kids ass to study hard and become a doctor, are doing it because the family "loves to help people out"m, over here  HELL NO ON THAT ONE

Theres a million things bad and wrong with communism, but god damn what I wouldnt do to see a Cuban (known as worlds best) doctor right about now.........

[Blarg]

I guess everyone has a story. Some not as happy as others.

[UndertheHalo]

It’s awful. 

[Adam]

Pics of the Hungarian Gf?

[fan_since79]

One good thing we have here (that some countries might not have) is state-of-the-art advanced equipment to help doctors diagnose and treat all sorts of conditions.

I had photocoagulation laser treatment to repair a torn retina...was referred to a retina specialist by my regular eye doctor. The whole thing took 20 minutes and cost me less than a hundred bucks. For every horror story there are many success stories we just don't hear about.

But yeah, your situation is tough.

[DCAngelsFan]

15 hours ago, notherhalo said:

Im not done

I had a girlfriend in Hungary who was a doctor, and barely made much $$$ compared to the barber.   She did a research project with her group on autism, and while funding ran out halfway through, they volunteered their time and money to complete it anyway, because helping the handicapped was something she really liked to do, it wasnt about the money.

What are the odds the parents whipping their kids ass to study hard and become a doctor, are doing it because the family "loves to help people out"m, over here  HELL NO ON THAT ONE

Theres a million things bad and wrong with communism, but god damn what I wouldnt do to see a Cuban (known as worlds best) doctor right about now.........

In the first case, I'd suggest you try a pulmonologist - thing is, most primary care doctors are really slow to escalate things, and always try the minimalist route.  If you walked into an ER, you'd likely have a chest CT done in an hour (if it's not pneumonia and asthma treatment isn't helping - it might be something that needs a CT to see.)  If you want the best, there are options - Mayo clinic, for example - but you have to pay - how much do you think that CT machine costs, anyway?  

My daughter is a doctor - you have no idea how much work that is, starting from high school, it takes to become a doctor, nor how much you owe when you're done, how many years of 100+ hour work weeks while sometimes not being able to afford rent, how her health insurance is probably worse than yours, and how often as a resident, ironically, she couldn't afford to see a doctor, nor how many hundreds of hours she donated to running clinics for the homeless and indigent.  Nor do you hear the daily threats they get from drug-seeking patients, or people who want their kid labeled LD so they can collect benefits and when denied, go insane, or the daily threats of lawsuits, or the fact that half the beds in hospitals are often filled with psych patients who just want attention or pain meds, or the fact that she works 12 hours a day, 8 days straight then two off, with one or two night floats, and is often on call on her day(s) off, so can't go any further than 30 minutes from her hospital.   How her maximum number of patients she's supposed to be attending on is supposed to be 12, but often is 20 or more.  She and her husband spent their anniversary this year, with take-out sushi and both of them on their computers doing all the documentation on their patients they'd worked on that day. 

Yeah, it's a great life.  A lot of doctors are truly burned out.  It's not hard to see why, when most of their patients sound as grateful for their sacrifices as you do.  

[UndertheHalo]

Sounds like you’ve explained another aspect of the way our health care system is fuc*kung awful. 

Edited May 18, 2019 by UndertheHalo

[Lou]

If you think the healthcare system in Mexico is better than ours, your crazy. 

[AngelsLakersFan]

21 hours ago, notherhalo said:

Im not done

I had a girlfriend in Hungary who was a doctor, and barely made much $$$ compared to the barber.   She did a research project with her group on autism, and while funding ran out halfway through, they volunteered their time and money to complete it anyway, because helping the handicapped was something she really liked to do, it wasnt about the money.

What are the odds the parents whipping their kids ass to study hard and become a doctor, are doing it because the family "loves to help people out"m, over here  HELL NO ON THAT ONE

Theres a million things bad and wrong with communism, but god damn what I wouldnt do to see a Cuban (known as worlds best) doctor right about now.........

Perhaps you should go to school and become a doctor so that you could diagnose yourself. Then you could take your knowledge and help the uninsured with their health issues. 

The number one problem with the health care system that no one talks about is the shortage of people filling the positions needed to give good care. You can't just say 'let everyone be able to see a doctor with minimal wait times' you have to actually have doctors available to see those patients. Doctors have among the highest rates of suicide among professions and I'd wager a lot of it is because its a flat out shit job.

[m0nkey]

6 hours ago, Lou said:

If you think the healthcare system in Mexico is better than ours, your crazy. 

What about the education system? 

[Tank]

Lou just had a public school moment.

[Tank]

I agree about seeing a pulmonologist. I went on a cruise in June and had a cough until September. It finally passed but I’m sure I picked some exotic virus from the ship. Tried to just let it heal naturally and regretted it. Go see a specialist and make sure you include that you’ve been out of the country. At the very least someone should take a swab of your throat and make a culture of it.

[gotbeer]

@notherhalo I have a buddy that is a dual citizen.  And he also swears that if you have to pay, Mexico is the way to go.  As long as you go to a reputable place that is.  The one, that I may take him up on, is dental.  He was saying that his dentist charges something like $800 for not 1 implant, but 4 implants.  And he says the service is great.  

[notherhalo]

I picked it up in LA early January, tried bringing it to Mexico but everyone avoided catching it from me.  The dr gave me a referral to an ENT in late July

a solid number of the gringos I see in MX are for "medical tourism", seems like mostly dental

in our MX office, we require a doctors note for ANY sick day, seems like extreme overkill for the common cold, but it literally takes 5 mins in and 10 mins out and costs almost nothing, and is kind of standard practice in that area

[Make Angels Great Again]

Well it's not good enough to save a massive heart attack.

Everyone make sure you tell your dad how much you love him. I won't get the chance anymore. 61 years old...

[Kevin]

1 hour ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

Well it's not good enough to save a massive heart attack.

Everyone make sure you tell your dad how much you love him. I won't get the chance anymore. 61 years old...

Sorry to hear MAGA, my condolences.

[Taylor]

3 hours ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

Well it's not good enough to save a massive heart attack.

Everyone make sure you tell your dad how much you love him. I won't get the chance anymore. 61 years old...

Man, I'm so sorry to here that, MAGA. I can't imagine what you're going through.

[Jason]

4 hours ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

Well it's not good enough to save a massive heart attack.

Everyone make sure you tell your dad how much you love him. I won't get the chance anymore. 61 years old...

Awful. Sorry for your family's loss. My wife lost both her parents before they were 65. Her mom at 59 and her dad at 63. You are absolutely right that we should tell our loved ones how much we do love them. 

[UndertheHalo]

7 hours ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

Well it's not good enough to save a massive heart attack.

Everyone make sure you tell your dad how much you love him. I won't get the chance anymore. 61 years old...

I’m really sorry to read this.  I know stuff like this doesn’t mean anything now but know that he’s always in your heart.  Take care man. All the best to you and your family. 

[the dude abides]

On ‎5‎/‎19‎/‎2019 at 10:41 AM, Make Angels Great Again said:

Well it's not good enough to save a massive heart attack.

Everyone make sure you tell your dad how much you love him. I won't get the chance anymore. 61 years old...

Very sorry to hear this.  My sincere condolences to you and your family.

[Angel Oracle]

On ‎5‎/‎18‎/‎2019 at 2:07 PM, AngelsLakersFan said:

Perhaps you should go to school and become a doctor so that you could diagnose yourself. Then you could take your knowledge and help the uninsured with their health issues. 

The number one problem with the health care system that no one talks about is the shortage of people filling the positions needed to give good care. You can't just say 'let everyone be able to see a doctor with minimal wait times' you have to actually have doctors available to see those patients. Doctors have among the highest rates of suicide among professions and I'd wager a lot of it is because its a flat out shit job.

Thank the government, big pharma, and insurance companies.

Especially thank Nixon for being the one who made HMO's (and big profits) in vouge. 

The government is doing all they can to destroy the industry I've been in for 25 years...home healthcare.   They decided earlier in the decade to introduce stupid competitive bidding for home healthcare companies to bid on working with Medicare reimbursements.   Because companies purposefully well undercut their bid to get into the industry (without thinking out the repercussions), it's undercut especially oxygen reimbursements by FIFTY % compared to earlier in the decade.

Screw U, guberment!   They couldn't pick the winner of a one horse race, because they'd be arguing for an hour on whether horse racing should be banned.

[Angel Oracle]

On ‎5‎/‎18‎/‎2019 at 8:53 PM, gotbeer said:

@notherhalo I have a buddy that is a dual citizen.  And he also swears that if you have to pay, Mexico is the way to go.  As long as you go to a reputable place that is.  The one, that I may take him up on, is dental.  He was saying that his dentist charges something like $800 for not 1 implant, but 4 implants.  And he says the service is great.  

I remember back 7 years ago, I and my then girl friend went to Mexico for her to have two teeth saved.   It only cost $90.   When I gave the receptionist a $10 tip to be given to the dentist, she broke down in tears. 

[Spirit]

On 5/18/2019 at 3:15 AM, Adam said:

Pics of the Hungarian Gf?

 

But please, no pictures of the hung Arian girlfriend.

 

 

[Adam]

If only you guys could slide into my PMs...